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admin - 12-4-2023 at 07:49 PM

Update,
there is a bug in .pa files which shows some large losses in the system report that did not occur in TS. Working on a fix now.

admin - 12-4-2023 at 08:39 PM

Goldminer report now correct

SwedenTrader - 13-4-2023 at 01:02 AM

The PA-file is not here yet ? Is it uploaded somewhere so we can test it in PA ?

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admin - 13-4-2023 at 01:06 AM

@sweden trader
all pa files are here.
Only gc are up to date
https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=kZXfhjVZFVuT40tgMfBC...

admin - 13-4-2023 at 03:45 AM

important update
gsb_GC9 on my machine and 2 others has no trades, even if data goes back to 2007
I have no idea why, and will look into this tommrow
possible other systems / markets effected
never seen anything like this
gsbgc4 seems the same, not gsbgc1 and gc6
comments from others welcome

SwedenTrader - 13-4-2023 at 04:05 AM

GC_sys1, GC_sys3, GC_sys5, GC_sys9 looks fine on TS10. I lost GC_sys4 A and B they are somewhere in the backups.

admin - 13-4-2023 at 04:08 AM

Thanks for the comments.
gc9 and 4 is not fine on my ts 10. In 22 years have not seen an issue like this

admin - 13-4-2023 at 04:47 AM

I posted on ts forum
https://community.tradestation.com/Discussions/Topic.aspx?To...

as of today, this code is busted
vars:v3(0);
v3=AccumSwingIndex;
print (date,time,v3)
results always = 0
ts 9.5 and 10 affected, numerous users but not all
symbol @gc30, @nq fails

portfolioquanttrader2020 - 13-4-2023 at 06:24 AM

I have tried this symbol and it works
@GC=102NC+FGHJKMNQUXZ
gc9 230-1230 exchange

GSBsysFLT5.NQ

jeffreed44 - 27-4-2023 at 01:02 PM

Quote: Originally posted by admin  
@cheesman,
well spotted. I have not released all systems I trade, and some of that is not at all deliberate, so Im happy to sell it.
Currently it doesnt have all the extra code like auto detect emini / micros, time zones etc, so I can release it later next week when I do all of that.


Hi Peter, are you still planning to release this system for sale? Would very much be interested in this updated system once the auto-detect for micros, etc is updated. Thanks!

GSBsysFLT5.NQ

jeffreed44 - 27-4-2023 at 01:02 PM

Quote: Originally posted by admin  
@cheesman,
well spotted. I have not released all systems I trade, and some of that is not at all deliberate, so Im happy to sell it.
Currently it doesnt have all the extra code like auto detect emini / micros, time zones etc, so I can release it later next week when I do all of that.


Hi Peter, are you still planning to release this system for sale? Would very much be interested in this updated system once the auto-detect for micros, etc is updated. Thanks!

admin - 27-4-2023 at 10:50 PM

Hi Jeffreed44
Yes I am, just drowning in things to do, but its getting better.
Some of the time hungry research and tax tasks are nearly complete
apologies over lateness of getting this done.

admin - 2-5-2023 at 09:28 PM

Updates to GSBsys1.3 to 1.5 series
This is free update to all users who bought the systems.
Sadly these systems are in high drawdown, which i put down to market conditions.
Your existing pcloud urls that you got when you bought the system should work
also update to GSBSYSv2-15minES
I still trade all these systems but a greatly reduced leverage.
The eld names have not changed, but the contents of the eld files have change
All systems should have an input under notes which has a comment on the new build date.


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admin - 3-5-2023 at 12:51 AM

here is GSBSYSv2-15minES
new version is at new highs, but regardless its risky conditions for day trading ES

I have not forgotten about new nq system (not new but just new for me to sell)

im reviewing systems, trying to improve them and not sure what workspace its on.


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admin - 3-5-2023 at 02:16 AM

correction, results on 1.3es were not correct. one filter not applied

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admin - 3-5-2023 at 11:33 PM

Happy to say, im on a bit of a roll!
I added the pattern filter from the ES systems to ZoneTraderNQ
ZTnq results were not to bad regardless, but significant improvement and new highs
Even better the upgrade is free for any users who bought ZT2 from me. (not all users bought it from me)

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admin - 4-5-2023 at 09:04 PM

Update to Zonetrader 2.04
Small bug fix today (fix that was in older version that accidently got ommited)
and tiny improvement.
System for sale now too
https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/ZoneTraderNQ.html

Carl - 5-5-2023 at 05:57 AM

Hi Peter,

Can you share the test and validation process that you are using when you add additional filters to existing strategies?

Thanks

admin - 5-5-2023 at 05:55 PM

@CARL,
Good question.
The OpenD filter worked on all the ES systems I tried, and gave a nice bell curve as far as parameters go.

With the trend filter, I tried many things and one was clearly the best.
Again it had a nice bell curve.
Other filters might have made tiny improvements, but they might reduce number of trades by say only 1%, and no bell curve, which means they were not valid.
What you want is say 10% or more trades reduced, but much better metrics, and ideally (often not the case) more profit and less drawdown, profit factor and average trade.
Do this on any system that has secondary filters as ClosedBPV and you will see this very clearly

Is interesting that the trend filter seem to work on all es systems ive tried so far, and I think its due to ES tends to revert to the mean.
NQ which I think has poorer mean reversion it did not work on, except for zone trader NQ
Even more interesting is zonetrader counter trend likes the long filter on short entries and short filter on long entries, but for trend following likes the long filter on long entries
(ZT2 has trend and counter trend module)

by the way, zt2 is equity looking good.$2860 win per today (live fill) per contract



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Carl - 6-5-2023 at 01:57 AM

Thanks, Peter.

The shape of the bell curve you mentioned in your previous post is over the entire dataset?

So you don't use an in-sample segment to test a filter and validate/verify this on out-of-sample data?

portfolioquanttrader2020 - 6-5-2023 at 02:43 AM

Filters must be tested independently, not stacked because then we would be changing the baseline, or heart of the strategy.
There must be a period in sample and out of sample and an order in the development and implementation of filters. The bell curve is the test of parametric sensitivity, but I understand that information is missing from the information that Peter has given.

portfolioquanttrader2020 - 6-5-2023 at 02:48 AM

First, the heart of the strategy is defined. Later, each new rule or filter is a brick and must be tested independently of the rest. For this reason, the filter that Peter has put in I understand that it should be tested only on the heart of the strategy, deactivating the rest of the filters. If it is stacked, we run the risk of over-optimization, having changed the heart of the strategy.
I would like a more extensive explanation by Peter

Carl - 6-5-2023 at 04:07 AM

Sofar I have been testing filters this way:

Test the filter on in-sample (50-80% of all the data).
Then look for a good bell curve shaped graph of the net profit and ROA.

I like the bell curve on the out-of-sample data to be similar to the bell curve of the in-sample data.
The preferred parameter value on the in-sample data must be almost the same like the preferred parameter value on the out-of-sample data.

So if I select a parameter value based on in-sample data and this differs a lot from the "best" parameter value on the out-of-sample data, I will reject this specific filter.

With that said, I still don't have a Ferrari, so maybe there are much better methods then what I have been doing.


portfolioquanttrader2020 - 6-5-2023 at 12:09 PM

Hi Carl,
Yes, but the filters must be deactivated, to try one by one, as you are saying, and then choose them, and combine them. But sometimes, when you do not do independent tests, it can happen that you optimize and see the bell of a filter that if you test it without deactivating the rest, the results are excellent, but if you test it isolated from the rest, the results are bad. This independence test is used by Jeff Swanson, to avoid overfit.

admin - 7-5-2023 at 07:56 PM

"Thanks, Peter.
The shape of the bell curve you mentioned in your previous post is over the entire dataset?
So you don't use an in-sample segment to test a filter and validate/verify this on out-of-sample data?
"
you can test this at any stage by doing a WF of the new filter, but there are many other ways.
For example the new filter worked on all the ES systems I tried. You can argue they are significantly correlated.
There is a very logical, explainable reason why this filter should work.
The filter also worked just as well on zonetrader2nq. This system is complex compared to GSB systems, has trend following
and counter trend (GSB are not normally counter trend, but there are exceptions) and the filter worked inverse on counter trend in zt2
There is no way im going to test a filter that I believe is solid on a complex system like zt2 by removing existing zt2 filters. Not saying its wrong to do so, but im not going to do it
There is danger that with too few trades, invalid statistical results occur. zt2nq had about the 750 trades after the filter was applied. so thats a decent sample, esp as gsbsys..es also worked well with it and both long and short trades improved too.

If we were to build systems with no filters, then add them later, we should be building them with no SF, and doing that last.
Your welcome to try that approach, and it could be done with gsb as is, as sf can be turned off.
However what we know to be true is the sf concept has worked well years out of sample.
There are other practical issues. Sometimes you get such good market conditions, valid filters for a time are best left out.

admin - 24-5-2023 at 12:13 AM

there is a new build of ts 10 out yesterday
Ts say stability improvements.
I think its significantly worse
https://community.tradestation.com/Discussions/Topic.aspx?To...
this is ts10 69 1161. Note the constant increase in memory
Feedback from others welcome


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below is build 68
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saycem - 24-5-2023 at 12:58 AM

This is disappointing to hear. TS has been substandard for a long time now.

admin - 24-5-2023 at 01:03 AM

Well thats only my experience on one server. I restored 68 and will confirm 68 is still ok

chifai2 - 27-5-2023 at 11:23 AM

I don't know if it has anything to do with it. But when I was forced to update to TS build 69 after reboot, I had a crash. But after I updated my windows latest available monthly updates, the crash issue didn't resurfaced again for 2 days after that, but the RAM did still go up gradually. I wish I have a personal option of staying on build68, which is more stable. Anyone knows how to keep on using a previous build without having to be forced to upgrade after a PC reboot?

TradingPrice - 28-5-2023 at 04:20 AM

@chifai2

ran this last week and so far it hasn't updated

https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/Tradestationbestpracticeandfi...

"Tradestation 10 disable of automatic update
TS 10 gives you no choice to not update the build. This for example means users lost the ability to export xml performance report - one of the two ways to export data for Portfolio Analyst Pro.

Please unzip, then double click this file to change your registry."



Daniel UK1 - 28-5-2023 at 05:24 AM

Why dont you guys try Multicharts, not perfect, but for sure seems to run with much less headache. Never had memory issues of cpu issues (been running systems on MC for over 8 years i think), Have not had a crash of MC for as long as I can remember. You can all systems in a portfolio without charts. You can add force close on positions and control seconds before session ends for all positions.. Just saying, might be worth a try based on the headache you guys seems to experiencing.

TradingPrice - 28-5-2023 at 08:23 AM

@Daniel

Interesting, Could you please tell us more?

Broker? I'm guessing IB?
what data are you using? IQ feed?
Execution speed?
you're building systems on IQfeed data? assuming that's your data feed?
Can you do symbol substitution? trade MNQ based on NQ?

any issues with platform?

Thanks

admin - 29-5-2023 at 08:59 PM

@Daniel, thanks for your comments.
I see MC / TS the same as andriod / apple, Tesla or not a tesla.
Very strong individual preference, and at times zero choice in the matter.
ie TS not available on your country, ts not have a market you want to trade means you go to mc, a Tesla, you cant afford one or dont want one.
MC was perhaps 10++???? years ahead of TS for supporting multi core, and 64 bit and it has significant plus's, esp being very stable.
Drove us all nuts trying to get the max speed out of one cpu core, when we had many.
IBlink can support mc or ts, so thats ok
On the negatives, I dont want to use it. The most basic performance reports on a numerous pages, and cant be seen in one page.
This alone makes it too painful to use, and would be a 5 minute fix for mc to do.
I am heavily invested in object oriented code, which mc doesnt do, and alertmon uses this extensively.
I can tell if a chart is not open, or in fault state even on weekends when the market is closed. MC I dont think can do this.
If I wait for market to open for alarms, i would get them 1:30 am my time, which is very bad for sleep and lifestyle.
MC doesnt support the ts wfo.exe bin file format (unless thats changed) and ewfo is a pain to use with MC.
For reasons I dont know, and have not looked into much, mc with ts data feed frequently failed. (im sure iqfeed will be stable)
IQ data feed <> ts data feed, and I think there are issues of no up down vol (critical to me, but i could be wrong over this)
and ts code is 99% the same as mc. The 1 % would be a big task to sort out.
I am heavily invested in TS and reluctant to change. It would be my plan z to use MC
mc is also slower to execute, however if the portfolio trader was used, likely this would not be the case. (i benchmarked them both extensively)
There are a great deal of bugs in both platforms, and I have done workarounds for there own quirks.
If ts was stable, and 64 bit I would want little more. Rebooting ts each day and im working on having charts over two copies of ts, should fix my issues.
TS stability is much worse when you have 40+ charts.



A side issue
the relationship between ts and mc is interesting. I spoke to someone who has the opinion that someone who owned ts a long time back, owns part of MC.
The lead programmer of GSB also thinks, the same programmer(s) who wrote ts, also wrote mc. This is not the same as saying they copied parts of TS.


admin - 29-5-2023 at 09:48 PM

Free upgrade from gsbsys3nq to version gsbsys3.11 on same pcloud url as when you bought the system
system reports updated
https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/GSBsys3NQ.html
GSB_AG_swingAG101ES new highs
https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/GSB_AG_swingAG101ES.html

zt204nq
https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/ZoneTraderNQ.html

Daniel UK1 - 30-5-2023 at 07:54 AM

Quote: Originally posted by TradingPrice  
@Daniel

Interesting, Could you please tell us more?

Broker? I'm guessing IB?
what data are you using? IQ feed?
Execution speed?
you're building systems on IQfeed data? assuming that's your data feed?
Can you do symbol substitution? trade MNQ based on NQ?

any issues with platform?

Hi,

Broker IB yes, rock solid api.. I have never had it crash, ever.
Iq feed, rock solid ai also, have had a handfull of issues at most over 8 years.
Execution speed, hard to tell, but i have not noticed any delays.. i use baremetal server in chicago at very reliable and expensive datacenter, close to IB and exchange... just request Ib to allocate you to execute at closest server they had to your server,.. in my case, same city.. Chicago.

Build on IQ, trade on IQ, I can map whatever. nq to mnq etc...
But dont do this, since i trade both NQ and MNQ.. i just build on NQ data and trade on MNQ...





Thanks

goodoboy - 30-5-2023 at 09:38 AM

Good Morning to You Peter,

Hope all is well with you and family.

Just checking in with you. Do you please have more systems I can run on NinjaTrader8.

Currently I am running GSBsys3NQ and GSBsys1ES on NinjaTrader8.

I look forward to your response.

Thank you,

admin - 30-5-2023 at 07:43 PM

@goodoboy, The NT programer has been pulled from doing NT system conversion to working on GSB miss match issues, and GSB NT features. This is months of work and it sadly for you means i have no resources to put into conversion of systems.
I will look for some solutions but this is not easy to get done. The missmatch issues are a critical issue for me to get fixed asap on all platforms

goodoboy - 31-5-2023 at 02:51 PM

Quote: Originally posted by admin  
@goodoboy, The NT programer has been pulled from doing NT system conversion to working on GSB miss match issues, and GSB NT features. This is months of work and it sadly for you means i have no resources to put into conversion of systems.
I will look for some solutions but this is not easy to get done. The missmatch issues are a critical issue for me to get fixed asap on all platforms


Hello Peter,

Thank you for the response and update. I perfectly understand and will wait for the updates.

Have a great day.

admin - 31-5-2023 at 06:54 PM

There was a tiny bug in GSBSYS3.11NQ
In ts 10 setexitoclose doesnt work real time unless its a standard session time close
so this code was missing

If TIME =eod and currentcontracts >0 THEN
BEGIN
Sell ("LX_EOD") THIS BAR AT CLOSE;
Buy TO COVER ("SX_EOD") THIS BAR AT CLOSE;
END;

all users on ts10 or 9.5 who execute at tradestation brokerage (TMA users not needed) should update there code
Same pcloud url. Orders will show "GSB3.12nqLe3c Previous version was GSB3.11nqLe3c

goodoboy - 1-6-2023 at 09:54 AM

Quote: Originally posted by admin  
There was a tiny bug in GSBSYS3.11NQ
In ts 10 setexitoclose doesnt work real time unless its a standard session time close
so this code was missing

If TIME =eod and currentcontracts >0 THEN
BEGIN
Sell ("LX_EOD") THIS BAR AT CLOSE;
Buy TO COVER ("SX_EOD") THIS BAR AT CLOSE;
END;

all users on ts10 or 9.5 who execute at tradestation brokerage (TMA users not needed) should update there code
Same pcloud url. Orders will show "GSB3.12nqLe3c Previous version was GSB3.11nqLe3c


Hello Peter,

Thank you for the update.

I am running GSBsys3NQ in NinjaTrader 8 right now.

Should I be concerned about the bug? I know your programmer have not done the updates for GSBsys3NQ NT8 to decrease drawdown yet and will do it later when time is available.

Thank you,

goodoboy - 1-6-2023 at 11:27 AM

Good Morning Peter ,

Sorry to bother as you know you and programmers are very very busy and overwhelmed with current fixes on TS.

Just a quick question please.

Is GSBsys21ES available for NT8?

Thankyou so much.

admin - 1-6-2023 at 11:40 PM

@GOODBOY, this will be a long time off, unless i can get anohter NT programer online. I have one, but he has no ts skills, so it would likely be costly on my time.
regardless I will look into it.
the current nt programmer is tied up on GSB & GSB-nt for a long time to come.

admin - 6-6-2023 at 08:42 PM

results to Vegas es ym dax updated. 2 of the 3 systems are at strong new highs
https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/VegasES-YM-DAX.html



There is a minor free update to GSBSYS1V2NQ
https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/GSBsys1NQV2.html
Same pcloud link.
one more filter added, change in trades per day logic.
System still in significant draw down

admin - 8-6-2023 at 12:00 AM

Is there much interest in this system? Out of sample since 2004. Yes thats not a typo


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admin - 8-6-2023 at 12:08 AM

Here is the dax

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BlackBox - 9-6-2023 at 02:55 PM

Quote: Originally posted by admin  
Is there much interest in this system? Out of sample since 2004. Yes thats not a typo


The last 2 systems I bought did my TS crash. Other previous didn't. So is there much interest from my site. A difficult answer.

chifai2 - 9-6-2023 at 07:29 PM

In my opinion, The reason why most GSB Index strategies have not performed as well is because they all are trending strategies. In the previous years while we had the covid and other major financial events, the VIX was high and the daily price range was high as well. Now the Vix is back to the 14-18 range with the markets being very choppy, a low time frame counterTrend strategy would need to be added to the portfolio as diversification is very important. My personal CT systems have done very well in this trading environment.

NickW - 9-6-2023 at 08:07 PM

Quote: Originally posted by chifai2  
In my opinion, The reason why most GSB Index strategies have not performed as well is because they all are trending strategies. In the previous years while we had the covid and other major financial events, the VIX was high and the daily price range was high as well. Now the Vix is back to the 14-18 range with the markets being very choppy, a low time frame counterTrend strategy would need to be added to the portfolio as diversification is very important. My personal CT systems have done very well in this trading environment.


that begs the question can we develop counter trend / mean reversion strategies with gsb?

admin - 9-6-2023 at 08:59 PM

Good question. If you have zonetrader2.04 you could look how the counter trend logic works. (while i have the code, how it works is not yet in my head)
there is also mean reversion. The next release has that as a filter. This tends to just help trend following systems do better, but they are still trend following
@chifai2, can you give an example of counter trend system. Fine if you want to email me.
Long term GSB architecture can be adjusted / changed to support all sorts of trading types.
Ive only got CT going on GC market, no others yet. However im not in system development mode at the moment. More working on research and new features in GSB

admin - 20-6-2023 at 12:25 AM

Just a reminder
when we have a half trading day, the value of the previous close is not correct, and it changes just after 830 am central time.
you need to do a control R (else delete all cache) at 831 am on all symbols that have an @ in front.
Then check that all charts are loaded ok and have trades on them.
The consequences of not doing this have at times been the difference of winning or not getting a large winning trade. Of course the opposite is also possible

Bounce system is getting populated under systems for sale. Its not compete but will be in a few days. Very time consuming to do.
https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/BounceES-NQ-DAX-RUS.html

admin - 20-6-2023 at 06:45 AM

correction, it applies to @es.d not @es etc
ive found this can be done before 830 am for intra day, but from what I can see daily bars, ie vegas system needs it at 831

goodoboy - 22-6-2023 at 01:46 PM

Quote: Originally posted by admin  
Is there much interest in this system? Out of sample since 2004. Yes thats not a typo


Hello Peter,

How are you doing sir?

Yes, I would definitely love to have this system. It will be perfect for me.

Can I email you about buying this system?

Thank you

goodoboy - 22-6-2023 at 01:55 PM

Quote: Originally posted by admin  
Here is the dax


Hello Peter,

Yes, I am very interested in this system to buy from you.

Should I email you about it?

Thank you

SwedenTrader - 22-6-2023 at 02:06 PM

Hi, this system can still buy and sell at the same point like just now at the end of session today. This should have been fixed months ago i remember you wrote Peter. Or i have missed the update ?

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admin - 23-6-2023 at 02:03 AM

@SwedenTrader
I believe this has been fixed and the same pcloud link should work. If not get back to me

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admin - 23-6-2023 at 02:06 AM

@goodboy, system is very close to being done. Very time consuming as there are lots of markets its trades
I hope to have paypal url by tueday or earlier. Will be more expensive than standard systems as its out of sample so long, and it trades many markets
.pa files are here if oyu want to check correlation wiht other systems

Attachment: Login to view the details


goodoboy - 24-6-2023 at 01:25 PM

Quote: Originally posted by admin  
@goodboy, system is very close to being done. Very time consuming as there are lots of markets its trades
I hope to have paypal url by tueday or earlier. Will be more expensive than standard systems as its out of sample so long, and it trades many markets
.pa files are here if oyu want to check correlation wiht other systems


Hello Peter,

Thank you so much for the help.

I appreciate it fully.

I am ready to buy when the systems are ready sir.

Thank you

admin - 26-6-2023 at 12:04 AM

Bounce with some other variants is now ready for purchase
https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/BounceES-NQ-DAX-RUS-DOW.html
Apologies for the delay. A great deal of work went into this, let alone building the system before the days of Genetic System builders were in use.
The system is not cheap, but there is a substantial discount in price till 15 July 2023

goodoboy - 2-7-2023 at 11:37 AM

Quote: Originally posted by admin  
Bounce with some other variants is now ready for purchase
https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/BounceES-NQ-DAX-RUS-DOW.html
Apologies for the delay. A great deal of work went into this, let alone building the system before the days of Genetic System builders were in use.
The system is not cheap, but there is a substantial discount in price till 15 July 2023


Hello Peter,

Thank you so much for the system and update.

Is the system available for NinjaTrader8 as well? I hope so, would like to run it in NT8.

admin - 2-7-2023 at 08:58 PM

@goodoboy
Sorry but its not in NT and wont be for at least a few months.
Selling systems is lower priority for programmers than GSB features and very much GSB NT needed improvements.

goodoboy - 3-7-2023 at 06:52 AM

Quote: Originally posted by admin  
@goodoboy
Sorry but its not in NT and wont be for at least a few months.
Selling systems is lower priority for programmers than GSB features and very much GSB NT needed improvements.


Good Morning Peter,

I perfectly understand sir. I will check back in a few months.

Thank you,

admin - 3-7-2023 at 10:30 PM

you can subscribe to this thread
Unrelated, https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/GSBsys1NQV2.html has been updated. Superb month after a nasty draw-down


admin - 4-7-2023 at 04:28 AM

ts 10 build 69 installed now for non beta testers. As I consider this build much worse that the last one (which I also find has bad memory leaks) how to we revert back to 68?
It doesnt even give options to cancel the update
One good thing about this build 69 is it has xml export of performance reports again :) but not html :(
The registry hack I published to stop ts updates also failed to work

goodoboy - 4-7-2023 at 03:19 PM

Quote: Originally posted by admin  
you can subscribe to this thread
Unrelated, https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/GSBsys1NQV2.html has been updated. Superb month after a nasty draw-down



Thank you so much Peter.

I appreciate your help sir.

TraderTom - 4-7-2023 at 05:27 PM

Hi Peter,

Here is what I use to stop TS from updating. It is a tiny .bat file, which I call TradeStation - No Updates.bat. (you can name it anything you want) The key is to ALWAYS open TS with this, and not to use any of the regular methods of opening it. I just keep a shortcut to it on my desktop, and click on it to open TS.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
echo on

dir "C:\ProgramData\TradeStation Technologies\TradeStation\Versions\10.00.00\Patches"


del /q "C:\ProgramData\TradeStation Technologies\TradeStation\Versions\10.00.00\Patches"


"C:\Program Files (x86)\TradeStation 10.0\Program\ORPlat.exe"

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Finally, to get back to build 68, just call TS tech support. They will send you a link to a .msp file that will let you install the version you want. It would be best if you know the version you want, but that's not required. For example, I'm on version 10.00.05.1161, which is part of build 69. It sounds like you want something before that.

I agree that the way TS does the updates is a real pain - I don't know anyone who likes it.

admin - 4-7-2023 at 05:41 PM

@tradertim
excellent work. Build 69 has another good feature. It can now rollback to build 68 :)


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admin - 4-7-2023 at 05:43 PM

@goodoboy, there is thank button you can hit, which means you can thank someone (always nice thank you) and it means users subscribed to the post dont get updates when there is no action for them to act on.

TraderTom - 5-7-2023 at 03:00 PM

Peter, if you're seeing the Update Manager screen, that means you are on beta, unless something has changed very recently. And with Update Manager, you always have the ability to roll back.

Now, it's possible that TS has added that functionality to regular TS upgrades, but if so, that's a change. Anyhow, glad you have a way to do the rollback, and once you find a version you are happy with, that .bat file I posted will lock it in for you, and prevent automatic upgrades.

admin - 5-7-2023 at 05:29 PM

@tradertom, ive added your batch file delete into my tskill.bat file which I run before ts opens in a script. Most happy with how it works.
I wasnt aware that the login I have was beta (though I have another beta login)
On the forum it said the build 69 had added the rollback option

admin - 13-7-2023 at 06:55 PM

A few things
TS Version 10, Update 69 is completing its rollout today.

They have made quite a few changes in this version, and TS said update should eliminate the memory and memory leak issues that many people have had.

My own experience is that this build is significantly worse than build 68. Please give me feedback.

Bounce system on special expires midnight 15 July 2023
https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/BounceES-NQ-DAX-RUS-DOW.html

TraderTom - 15-7-2023 at 04:16 PM

I'm on update 69, but only on build 1161. I found things were going south with the more recent build versions. It could well be that update 68 is even better, I'm not sure. The main issue I notice now with 1161 is that it sometimes disconnects or re-starts for no apparent reason, which is disconcerting.

admin - 16-7-2023 at 04:34 PM

@Tradertom,
I will try 69 again, but on defaults it was less stable. I want to try the last option next time. Would love some recommendations from TS or other users
What I suspect is one of the 'fixs' (bug cover up) is to reduce processes when loading all your charts when you start up.
I have a macro that opens one chart at a time. While thats a good idea, this in itself doesnt fix the stability issues for me


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TraderTom - 16-7-2023 at 05:43 PM

I don't think there are any easy answers here, because the problem manifests itself differently to different users. One thing that can help, but only if you have a lot of charts open at one time, is to reduce the amount of trades shown on each chart, to some minimum number. That reduces memory usage and the likelihood of crashes, sometimes. But if you don't have a lot of charts open, it doesn't make much difference. I'm usually trading with 40 charts or so, so it helps in my case. But it doesn't solve all the issues, unfortunately.

admin - 18-7-2023 at 12:59 AM

nat gas systems results all updated
Gold miner and sister system gold digger released
https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/GoldminerSwingGC.html
both not far off new highs

two of these at new monthly highs

https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/GSBsys5NG.html
https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/GSBsys10v1v2NG.html

goodoboy - 21-7-2023 at 06:41 AM

Quote: Originally posted by admin  
nat gas systems results all updated
Gold miner and sister system gold digger released
https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/GoldminerSwingGC.html
both not far off new highs

two of these at new monthly highs

https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/GSBsys5NG.html
https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/GSBsys10v1v2NG.html


Good Morning Peter,

Thank you for the update.

Do you have GSBsys5NG, GSBsys10v1v2NG and GoldminerSwingGC available for NinjaTrader 8?

Thank you sir.

goodoboy - 21-7-2023 at 06:41 AM

Quote: Originally posted by admin  
nat gas systems results all updated
Gold miner and sister system gold digger released
https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/GoldminerSwingGC.html
both not far off new highs

two of these at new monthly highs

https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/GSBsys5NG.html
https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/GSBsys10v1v2NG.html


Good Morning Peter,

Thank you for the update.

Do you have GSBsys5NG, GSBsys10v1v2NG and GoldminerSwingGC available for NinjaTrader 8?

Thank you sir.

admin - 21-7-2023 at 05:28 PM

@goodboy, sorry no but I will publish if / when I do.
I employed a programer with the specific task of doing NT work, but he ended up working on GSB, GSB-NT which is higher priority than systems sales.
Long term I hope to have him doing system conversion.

goodoboy - 23-7-2023 at 04:40 PM

Quote: Originally posted by admin  
@goodboy, sorry no but I will publish if / when I do.
I employed a programer with the specific task of doing NT work, but he ended up working on GSB, GSB-NT which is higher priority than systems sales.
Long term I hope to have him doing system conversion.


Hello Peter,

Thank you for the response.

admin - 23-7-2023 at 04:45 PM

@goodboy, thanks for the thank you, but best to use the thank button which saves others looking for posts that dont have actionable info.

admin - 23-7-2023 at 04:47 PM

66.040 is ready for a experienced GSB NT user to test. Contact me if you are interested

hsuehster - 26-7-2023 at 10:47 PM

Quote: Originally posted by admin  
There was a tiny bug in GSBSYS3.11NQ
In ts 10 setexitoclose doesnt work real time unless its a standard session time close
so this code was missing

If TIME =eod and currentcontracts >0 THEN
BEGIN
Sell ("LX_EOD") THIS BAR AT CLOSE;
Buy TO COVER ("SX_EOD") THIS BAR AT CLOSE;
END;

all users on ts10 or 9.5 who execute at tradestation brokerage (TMA users not needed) should update there code
Same pcloud url. Orders will show "GSB3.12nqLe3c Previous version was GSB3.11nqLe3c


Hi Peter, I assume this applies to any other systems that use setexitonclose as well?

hsuehster - 26-7-2023 at 10:47 PM

Quote: Originally posted by admin  
There was a tiny bug in GSBSYS3.11NQ
In ts 10 setexitoclose doesnt work real time unless its a standard session time close
so this code was missing

If TIME =eod and currentcontracts >0 THEN
BEGIN
Sell ("LX_EOD") THIS BAR AT CLOSE;
Buy TO COVER ("SX_EOD") THIS BAR AT CLOSE;
END;

all users on ts10 or 9.5 who execute at tradestation brokerage (TMA users not needed) should update there code
Same pcloud url. Orders will show "GSB3.12nqLe3c Previous version was GSB3.11nqLe3c


Hi Peter, I assume this applies to any other systems, such as GSB_NGSYS5, that use setexitonclose as well?

admin - 26-7-2023 at 10:58 PM

correct.
you also need
vars:eod(0),
once eod =SessionEndTime(0,1);

goodoboy - 1-8-2023 at 02:58 PM

Good Evening Peter,

I am thinking of purchasing Multicharts Platform to run some of your GSB systems for sale.

https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/Systemsforsale.html

Question please sir:

Are your systems compatible with Multicharts platform?
Will any modifications to code be needed to run the systems?

https://www.multicharts.com/features/easylanguage/ I read here that Multicharts is compatible with EasyLanguage as well.

Thank you,

admin - 1-8-2023 at 04:55 PM

@goodoboy
all systems should work on MC.
Note however some of the GSB day trading nq systems use up and down volume, and iqfeed??? doesnt support up down volume, only volume
ts vs mc is almost like apple vs windows issue. Polarizing and each has its own plus and negatives, with strong individual views.
MC requires a third party data feed. TS does not

Daniel UK1 - 2-8-2023 at 08:21 AM

Quote: Originally posted by admin  
@goodoboy
all systems should work on MC.
Note however some of the GSB day trading nq systems use up and down volume, and iqfeed??? doesnt support up down volume, only volume
ts vs mc is almost like apple vs windows issue. Polarizing and each has its own plus and negatives, with strong individual views.
MC requires a third party data feed. TS does not



As a sidenote, volume up and down is provided going forward with IQ, but not historically.

Only way to get up and down into mc as far as I know, is to use TS feed in MC, then you get up and down historically.


goodoboy - 3-8-2023 at 10:06 AM

Quote: Originally posted by admin  
@goodoboy
all systems should work on MC.
Note however some of the GSB day trading nq systems use up and down volume, and iqfeed??? doesnt support up down volume, only volume
ts vs mc is almost like apple vs windows issue. Polarizing and each has its own plus and negatives, with strong individual views.
MC requires a third party data feed. TS does not


Sounds Good Peter.

goodoboy - 3-8-2023 at 10:12 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Daniel UK1  
Quote: Originally posted by admin  
@goodoboy
all systems should work on MC.
Note however some of the GSB day trading nq systems use up and down volume, and iqfeed??? doesnt support up down volume, only volume
ts vs mc is almost like apple vs windows issue. Polarizing and each has its own plus and negatives, with strong individual views.
MC requires a third party data feed. TS does not



As a sidenote, volume up and down is provided going forward with IQ, but not historically.

Only way to get up and down into mc as far as I know, is to use TS feed in MC, then you get up and down historically.



Good Morning Daniel UK1,

Thank you for the response.

I read your are an experience Multichart users. Can I please network with you or pay you money for your time to help me get setup with Mulitchart platform to run some systems, this way I make no mistakes going forward? I private message you as well for help on Multichart.

Thank you,

goodoboy - 4-8-2023 at 07:41 AM

Quote: Originally posted by admin  
@goodoboy
all systems should work on MC.
Note however some of the GSB day trading nq systems use up and down volume, and iqfeed??? doesnt support up down volume, only volume
ts vs mc is almost like apple vs windows issue. Polarizing and each has its own plus and negatives, with strong individual views.
MC requires a third party data feed. TS does not


Good Morning Peter and Daniel,

Thanks for the response.

What data feed or broker do you recommend I use with Multicharts with GSB trading systems so the up and down volume works.?

https://www.multicharts.com/net/features/brokers/

admin - 4-8-2023 at 05:11 PM

@goodboy, I think its iqfeed people use

Daniel UK1 - 14-8-2023 at 04:57 AM

Quote: Originally posted by goodoboy  
Quote: Originally posted by Daniel UK1  
Quote: Originally posted by admin  
@goodoboy
all systems should work on MC.
Note however some of the GSB day trading nq systems use up and down volume, and iqfeed??? doesnt support up down volume, only volume
ts vs mc is almost like apple vs windows issue. Polarizing and each has its own plus and negatives, with strong individual views.
MC requires a third party data feed. TS does not



As a sidenote, volume up and down is provided going forward with IQ, but not historically.

Only way to get up and down into mc as far as I know, is to use TS feed in MC, then you get up and down historically.



Good Morning Daniel UK1,

Thank you for the response.

I read your are an experience Multichart users. Can I please network with you or pay you money for your time to help me get setup with Mulitchart platform to run some systems, this way I make no mistakes going forward? I private message you as well for help on Multichart.

Thank you,


@goodoboy

I can help you, mail me at donehappily at gmail..... com


admin - 24-8-2023 at 12:56 AM

New TS build
I have a user who got upgraded to build 70 (i suspect from build 68)
He now gets regular memory alarms from Alertmon.
To me this means build 68 was a good build and 69 and 70 are bad builds
I dont know how to roll back to 68 but I know how to get base install and I know how
If someone knows how, please post the details
The update manager lets you go back to the base isntall



To stop all updates, run this file before you open ts

to get to base ts, here is the installer file.
https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZQlgaVZB5AfAlTSgHBu...

Problem is you cant open workspace from new TS in old TS-which is another reason why you should keep old copies of workspaces





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admin - 24-8-2023 at 01:22 AM

unrelated, really big improvement in swing dax if the session time is changes. All uses should do this


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cheese_man - 24-8-2023 at 12:33 PM

Is it me or do the GSBsys ES and NQ systems seems to have really correlated returns these days? My totally unscientific and casual observation this summer is that the 15 and 30 minute GSBsys systems are all piling into the same positions (same side) more often. Off-hand I can remember 3 other times besides today. And the results are consequently very one-sided. So either huge losses because all systems are wrong or large gains if they're all right.

Probably the current market texture is to blame? Maybe running correlation of returns analysis for the current year would shed some light on my observation...

TradingPrice - 24-8-2023 at 03:06 PM

@admin

I'm on build 68, no crashes! been running for atleast 3 months. I could go a whole week without having to restart TS

I'm going to try new machine next week, the link you posted is for build 68?

is there any difference in stability between windows server 2019 vs windows 10 pro?

I'm starting to think windows server might be more stable

admin - 25-8-2023 at 03:05 AM

@tradingprice, good to hear you are stable
I prefer server 2019, but thats not a strong preference

Not what you asked, but for GSB win11 is NOT a good choice. The OS reports of CPU usage are totally buggy, and it gives most cpu to front apps which is bad for GSB workers

the link I posted I think is a more recent url of the base build. I know of no way to get ts 10 build 68, and would love to know how
Only way I can get it is to clone a VM with the build 68 on it

cheese_man - 28-8-2023 at 10:22 AM

I've been told that TradeStation update 68 has released multi-core options enabled under File > Preferences > Desktop and the Performance heading. Select "Auto Configured for High Performance by TradeStation."

They also say the next release should finally be 64-bit.

admin - 28-8-2023 at 05:08 PM

@cheeseman, i think its build 69 onwards and more cpu core settings.. and build 69 and 70 are less stable that the previous builds. There is currently no known way to roll back to 68 once you are on later build
I think the CPU core settings are designed as bug cover ups.

is the 64 bit going to be ts 11 or a ts 10 build?
Im really keen to have 64 bit. I think all DLL's will not work on 64 bit build.
not to bad for me as i have all my dll in 64 bit, but still a bit of work to change as I use dll's a lot

cheese_man - 29-8-2023 at 08:06 AM

@admin I don’t know this is coming second hand from a friend who knows TS devs.

For what it’s worth, I have not had that many crashing issues in the current version and various previous TS 11 releases. MAYBE I’ve had it crash during fast markets immediately after I RDP into the instance. I have never used TS 10. I run between 5 and 6 of your strategies on one instance.

Maybe it has to do with the fact that I use an Azure Standard_D4ds_v5 instance and pay out the wazoo for it, but my preference has always been using cloud providers for various workloads and I’m used to it. I also don’t see a problem with paying a premium to run software that risks and makes money.

I’ve always kept my Windows 10 instance up to date and basically if anything goes wrong I am ready to delete it and spin up a brand new and fresh Win 10 instance and load backups of my TS workspaces. I don’t run anything on the instance besides TS 11 and alert mon, and I always remove or disable OneDrive.

admin - 29-8-2023 at 05:00 PM

@cheese_man
Stabiltiy depends greatly on how many charts. 6 charts is a very low load compared to what im running
Wild guess is I have 40 charts which is on the limit of what ts can cope with
I have 100% access to all 24 cpu cores, and each cpu core is dedicated to me only.
On my Vm service every one gets dedicated CPU cores. The secrete to massive profitabilty on VM's is to over sell the CPU cores which for trading is a bad thing
as you want max CPU availability when orders fire off
Feedback on current build of 70 is fairly damming
https://community.tradestation.com/Discussions/Topic.aspx?To...
Large surveys have been done on the ts user base, and a significant amount of them have issues

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