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brk - 17-7-2025 at 11:29 AM

I'm finally getting back in and building systems. I finally found (some of) the optimization files, and when I load the macros I'm seeing strangeness. Overall, things are working but when macro 2 is run, it gets down to StartBuildingSystems which it does, however while its still building (after 100 or so systems), it continues down the macros when the systems haven't all been built. It seems to do this every time for me (in the macro). So now I need to run the macro full through, edit it to move the "StartBuildingSystems" to the bottom and re-run it to get all the favorites and stats to apply to all the systems (not just the 100 or so when the macro continued before the systems were done).

So how can I get the macro to wait until all the systems are built before continuing? I did bump up the MaxUniqSystems to 5000.

admin - 18-7-2025 at 03:31 AM

@brk, sorry for the late reply
Ive seen this before. Reboot your pc and try again. It might be due to low system resources. Default is 2500 systems. No great need to go above that
There also is a time setting in minutes, and max # compuations
check its like this.



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admin - 18-7-2025 at 03:51 AM

continuing on crude oil research, and learning a lot.
If no improvements can be made, im very happy but sim still looking for minor refinements. New updates to GSB required for this.
There also will be a new GSB automation spread sheet with new features too
Hope to push out a GSB build late next week.
I have two new CL systems im live trading now
Shown is a hypothetical chart with 2.4 and $10 slippage per side

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admin - 25-7-2025 at 12:32 AM

Under testing/ 67.79
New crude oil settings. CL15_20250611-SysBuild and CL15_20250611-40%InSample
new elds
bug fixes in some of the new stop / limit orders. Some functioned wrongly and had in effect marker order on either long or short
more filters added.
extend expiry date of code.

admin - 28-7-2025 at 12:55 AM

i was not happy with 69.79. While it had all pivot entires fixed, many entries were so far from the price they rarely hit, and so were useless.
I have a number of test builds after that, but not is ready for release. I hope its just a few days away

admin - 30-7-2025 at 12:22 AM

67.86 released to all purchased GSB users.
It has improved pivot logic, pivot bugs fixed.
New crude oil settings. CL15_20250611-SysBuild and CL15_20250611-40%InSample
new elds
bug fixes in some of the new stop / limit orders. Some functioned wrongly and had in effect marker order on either long or short
more filters added.
extend expiry date of GSB.exe code.
Feedback welcome.

brk - 6-8-2025 at 10:31 PM

I was just trying the CL settings on version 69.86 and tried copying them to Tradestation. I installed the GSB_ALL_FUNCTIONS_2025_0724.ELD.
It seems the generated code calling GSB_AtrWilderFilter(...) function which generates an exception:

Attempted to divide by zero (0). You should always check...

Call Stack: GSB_ATRWilder.main()Input methodInput method GSB_HighestFFC.mai()GSB_Norm9.main()ELRte

Do I have the correct ELD?

admin - 6-8-2025 at 10:39 PM

Quote: Originally posted by brk  
I was just trying the CL settings on version 69.86 and tried copying them to Tradestation. I installed the GSB_ALL_FUNCTIONS_2025_0724.ELD.
It seems the generated code calling GSB_AtrWilderFilter(...) function which generates an exception:

Attempted to divide by zero (0). You should always check...

Call Stack: GSB_ATRWilder.main()Input methodInput method GSB_HighestFFC.mai()GSB_Norm9.main()ELRte

Do I have the correct ELD?

Yes you do have the correct eld. Check you have a good number of years data (at least 3) and no holes in the data. If stuck email me and I will do remote support. You could also try the same system on different data. IE gc just to see if you get the error

TwntySQ - 7-8-2025 at 06:13 AM

Hi,

Trying the new CL settings using the nct3-300_build_gc_p0.90 macro but it doesn't seem to build. Something Im doing wrong?

brk - 7-8-2025 at 07:50 AM

I had the same problem with first the macro not being there, then when I filled it with the one(s) I found there they would build forever (on several hosts), but no systems would appear and time out.

I now do it manually without the macro and it seems to work.

brk - 7-8-2025 at 09:16 AM

Quote: Originally posted by admin  
Quote: Originally posted by brk  
I was just trying the CL settings on version 69.86 and tried copying them to Tradestation. I installed the GSB_ALL_FUNCTIONS_2025_0724.ELD.
It seems the generated code calling GSB_AtrWilderFilter(...) function which generates an exception:

Attempted to divide by zero (0). You should always check...

Call Stack: GSB_ATRWilder.main()Input methodInput method GSB_HighestFFC.mai()GSB_Norm9.main()ELRte

Do I have the correct ELD?

Yes you do have the correct eld. Check you have a good number of years data (at least 3) and no holes in the data. If stuck email me and I will do remote support. You could also try the same system on different data. IE gc just to see if you get the error


So after restarting I changed the CL to GC, then back and it was fine. Strangely after a reboot I go back in and it happened again. So again I changed to GC then back to CL to get it to work. At least I have a method to get past it.

macro location

brk - 7-8-2025 at 09:18 AM

Does Resource Manager download updated macros? Or is there a place where we can access the ones referred to in the forums?

admin - 7-8-2025 at 04:48 PM

@brk, yes it does download macros. Next release I will do m3-final macro.
see https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/GSBUltra-quickguide.html ALl users should see this updated page. A bit more works needs to be done but should be considered helpful
I think your CL data has a problem. Best you do control R on cl chart,or better still close ts and delete your cache

@Twnty.
Do you have workers running? you could also try the standalone GSB
Also try NG.
CL is significantly slower to build than NG and GC.
If stuck we can do an ultraviewer session

admin - 8-8-2025 at 01:21 AM

Im having good success system building, and looking for refinements and improvements that can be made.
Each market I look at the recent GSB is hugely better results then older build

I will also push out a new macro that makes system building much faster in the next build. Thats likely 1 or 2 weeks away.
All users should view this page. It needs some updates but as is most users will understand it.
https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/GSBUltra-quickguide.html

admin - 14-8-2025 at 12:16 AM

Under testing, 69.89. Has m3 macro m3-Final though its not added into all the config files.
Im testing if offsets on the stop entry HighD, closeD etc work better than with no offset.

A reminder, specials on Nat Gas and Gold systems expire in < 24 hours.
Out of sample so far is excellent
https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/GSB_NaturalGasSystems.html
https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/GSB_GoldSystems.html

admin - 21-8-2025 at 06:40 PM

Released yesterday. 69.90 build
Ability to export ts / mc code as plain text under saved systems.
TS/mc code will be in here
C:\GSB\Data\Scripts\....
also various of the existing stop entries, with offsets in ticks. My limited test to my surprise showed this was NOT improving results
Next build these features will be pushed so only the users in beta tester mode will have the stop offset orders

next build
Normalized closedlessOPend filter. (we have non normalized closeLessOpend filter only now)



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admin - 29-8-2025 at 03:27 AM

next build im testing CloseLessMaxPrevCloseDCurOpenD, CloseLessMinPrevCloseDCurOpenD, and CloseLessAvgPrevCloseDCurOpenD filters
It will be about a week away, maybe more
been busy the last few weeks researching

admin - 5-9-2025 at 06:56 PM

Next week I will release a new build.
It has bug for for export system parameters by macro
bug fix for rare occurrence that macro changing of dates doesn't occur, minor other improvements and some features yet to be tested before release

admin - 11-9-2025 at 06:44 PM

70.06 released
Possible very significant improvement to NG settings. By mistake the previous ones were on 30 min, should have been on 60 min. NG is a really good market now and very easy to build systems on.
NG GC CL now have m3final macro loaded on M3 macro button.
once you have systems in Favorite D, the runs the family command to remove systems that are the same apart from parameter values, then puts these in Favorite A
Bugs in the (ng/gc/cl)40% in sample settings. Nth was on no trade instead of all
By the way, competent users of GSB should not be running the 40% in sample settings
They are designed for users who know nothing of GSB to have an instant feel of what GSB can do.
on 40%insample settings, advanced mode is false which hides a lot of settings. Again this is for the person new to GSB to keep a powerful complex product a bit simpler
The super fast way for GSB users to build systems is here
https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/GSBUltra-quickguide.html
Updated eld's are included



admin - 25-9-2025 at 11:50 PM

out next week some time. build 70.15
New gold settings. These can be further refined and are likely still have remove for improvement, though im not yet sure how to improve them
systems gold 60 minutes, 24 hour data. Only a few systems in favouriteD, but systems are good any most are good since out of sample (May 1 2025) Whats unusual is i have never seen so many systems that all have negative correlation to each other. Note the first systems I built were session time ending with 1500 and 1700.
Shown is one GC system with the last year or so data.

improvements in performance metrics remarked out code, and the option to add this code with or without remarks. It now wont give performance metrics in print log for real time trading, and time sample in print log has seconds




fix error in value close, value open indicators. New elds needed for this and the gsb dummy script.
improvement in indicator imports from csv

This is for advanced GSB users. Ignore otherwise
Number of systems before restart. (NSR)
GSB has generations and populations in its genetic algorithms
conceptually there is an optimal range of these values, but it will vary per market and or bar interval
after the generations and populations have finished, GSB restarts with a new random seed of indicators / variables
It may take some time (seconds or low minutes) before systems are being built, and then you MIGHT get no new systems and number of systems just plateau's
beware, large population makes gsb much slower to build systems (last I tested years ago)
So you can use this to optimize GSB workers to get most speed. Note however speed of systems build varies greatly each time a new random seed is made.

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admin - 1-10-2025 at 10:45 PM

released build 70.15
Has GC 60 minute swing systems settings
GC_20251001_60min-nth3_stp2k5_20250501OOS-40%InSample is designed for you to have a quick look, not build systems
GC_20251001_60min-nth3_stp2k5_20250501OOS-SysBuild is for system building. Do the usual get 10 best indicators, then second pass build systems.
Note you will only get a few systems in Favorites D
Macros are included. They differ from previous setups, and we are using nth3 instead of nth1
Enclosed are some .pa files from two systems I built.

also is out of sample results since 15/5/2025
and negative correlation of systems. Note the first 5 systems are day trading, the latter 2 swing (longer term) systems


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admin - 10-10-2025 at 12:09 AM

update for the week. Have spend most of the week working with AI and new normalization methods. Learnt a lot and pushing AI to its limits. Im close to the point where I can send new methods to programmer, and then i will test
More gold systems coming in the next week or two as well (for sale)
Trading has been going well for some time after a very difficult march and april this year.

admin - 16-10-2025 at 10:49 PM

no updates to GSB this week. Below is in the programmers job que to add into GSB
Note how the centerscaling and highestlowest2 were the previous normalization methods
signsquared scaling and sigmoid in ALL cases were better than these. for a few markets adaptive was also good.
This gave very significant in sample and out of sample improvement in system results
Im going to get all of these new methods added, then do testing to see what works.
note the synthetic data deliberately has high volatility period, followed by low volatility to show have the different normalization modes differ under these circumstances



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admin - 24-10-2025 at 01:04 AM

Next build
indicators vwap, and onbalance volume
Will push the build when there are more updates
Spend most of the week on the new gold systems, documenting etc

admin - 31-10-2025 at 02:47 AM

not a lot of updates this week, apart from possible my best ever month trading. Im not sure in that I dont normally track months profits closely. Basically most of the money on gold systems, followed by mean reversion nq es systems
I have a number I will sell when time permits.
Also small update to batch processor that the interface can filter so you only see certain contacts. I havnt even tested the release yet.
Still working on normalization modes to add into GSB. Its quite a big task.

admin - 14-11-2025 at 01:25 AM

A productive week. Numerous normalization modes added to GSB, but testing them now which takes some time. Thanks to all those who have contributed workers.
Also close to new improved settings on Nasdaq long only swing systems, but testing my best settings with the new normalization modes.

70.32 build pushed with the new normalization modes. Recommend to not try them till I confirm they are better than existing modes, and ts = gsb etc
Im pushing builds regularly as each new normalization mode is added into GSB



admin - 21-11-2025 at 12:51 AM

Here are some initial stats on normalization modes
Whats clear is the original highestlowest2, and center scaling are no where near as good as the newer modes. Sigmoid and zscore are in the current build of GSB, and either are recommend to use as default (definitely not both of them at the same time)
Results in out of sample fitness F medium and the amount of systems in favorite D are my criteria

Whats the best normalization method varies per market, so im going to test again on Nasdaq long only systems

70.38 released. This has new dummy eld if you get a compile error saying looking for
dummyscript Value1 = GSB_Scripts_2025_11_10;


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admin - 28-11-2025 at 12:25 AM

next build, macro to export all wf systems results into a file. Lots of testing done on new normalization modes, with some promising candidates

Other updates not released yet.
alertmon and gsbsourcemanger may be giving false anti virus message in your temp folder due to OpenHardwareMonitorLib.dll
I have an alternative dll under testing, that shouldnt give this issue

admin - 4-12-2025 at 10:22 PM

released 70.44 build
has export wf results in macro, new eld including some functions that were missing, more normaliztion modes that im testing. Some look promising. There are about 40 new normalization modes but I wont release them till im confident they are better or at least equal to what we have now.

admin - 12-12-2025 at 12:05 AM

70.46 released. Bug fix for some ts functions that didn't compile. New ELD's.
We have about 60 normalization modes that im testing. Will take me some time to test them all on various markets.

Next we are looking at (again) if we can go to newer versions of Microsoft .net. Last time we looked at this it was no end of compile errors to be fixed.
Advantage if we get to upgrade may be more speed. New rego software also will be needed, so if this happens, its a major upgrade

After that hope to look at mean reversion systems in GSB. The NQ market right now is going really well with this sort of system. Its not a quick job to build this into GSB

admin - 9-1-2026 at 12:06 AM

we successfully got gsb to work on .net version 10. Still testing. Not likely to release soon as we need new rego software for all users, new obfuscation and some machine like my windows 10 pc would not run .net10 until i upgraded to windows 11

Next build will have bug fixes / issues for some elds that do not compile

admin - 16-1-2026 at 01:00 AM

Slow progress this week. Working on a single build that can use .net 4.8 to 10, rathter than have two seperate builds of GSB
minor compile issue in TS and MC close to resolved, but likely no updates this week.
Also done a lot of alertmon refinements. For example global excluding monitoring of charts from 4pm to 5pm (central usa) as all markets closed then

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