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[*] posted on 5-2-2023 at 11:00 AM
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I am using TS 10 and Portfolio Analyst. Using the ELD file to export trades as TS 10 no longer supports exporting trade data into xml format. Is there any workaround to get intra-day pricing in the export trades file to enable intraday pricing on lower timeframes below daily? (ex. 240 minute bars) Without the high and low per bar the intraday drawdown calculations are not available in Portfolio Analyst.

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[*] posted on 5-2-2023 at 03:46 PM


@catmore
I think in most but no all situations we get the intra day pricing exported.
There were many complaints over ts over the removal of xml export and a ticket was lodged internally in ts to take care of the issue.
You can use ts 9.5 or go back to a older version of ts10
There is also a registry hack to stop ts10 updating to new versions - as it does so without the users permision.


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[*] posted on 5-2-2023 at 03:54 PM


@chucknz
The choice of multiple duplicate indicators was a very deliberate one.
Im still interested in the same indicators with different parameters, even in one system.
However I agree that there is an issue here and have logged an issue with one of the programmers.
It doesnt build systems till this is set to 0 or>3


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[*] posted on 5-2-2023 at 04:04 PM


@timemeantnothing, lots of low volatility periods are profitable, but the extreme like 2004 to 2006 I could find nothing that works
you could try position sizing, but I have no personal interest in looking into that.
We are in extreme volatility and the best conditions in my 22 years of trading.
Its nice to be prepared for future conditions, as we know one day low volatility will occur. Happily I was very well prepared for the last change in market regimes to our current conditions.


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[*] posted on 5-2-2023 at 05:09 PM
Is there a trick to get custom indicators to work?


This is what I have done:
1. Created a custom indicator (tools,custom indicators, generate export script).
2. Pasted the script into an easylanguage strategy called GSB_Custom.
3. Opened the desired chart and applied the strategy.
4. Waited for it to write the txt file.
5. Imported the txt file into GSB.
6. Set the Custom Indicators to know about my new function. enabled it as an indicator as well as a secondary filter. I think it should work fine in either case.
7. Even tried forcing gsb to use either or both (indicator or sf).
9. Loosened all of the performance filters in case the function was total crap.
10. Ran GSB in a mode where it would count the indicators that were used.
11. ZILCH... nothing.

For what it is worth, this function returns a one if sees a buy condition and minus one for a sell condition. That should work, right?

I spent 22 hours getting to this point and i'm stuck. any words of wisdom would be appreciated.


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[*] posted on 5-2-2023 at 07:58 PM


Hi Chuck
assuming you followed the docs here https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/Customindicators1.html
then time for anydesk.com session. While I appreciate users read the docs, and try to figure things out... spending 22 hours on a task is too long. Better to ask for help earlier.
Long term we intend to have dll support so you can write CI, rather than go through all those steps.
Note however CI doesnt yet support the pass1 on best indicator support ranking, which makes CI useless to me.
However simple public domain indicators im happy to get added into GSB
The indicator ranking issue is on the todo list, but likely will be some time.


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[*] posted on 7-2-2023 at 11:47 AM
Random Space Walk Forward?


Can someone tell me what is meant by "Random Space Walk Forward"? How is it different from the "Genetic Algorithm Walk Forward"? Thank you.

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[*] posted on 7-2-2023 at 02:42 PM


Quote: Originally posted by ChuckNZ  
Can someone tell me what is meant by "Random Space Walk Forward"? How is it different from the "Genetic Algorithm Walk Forward"? Thank you.


Hi Chuck,

Some info here:
https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/ofRandom-SpaceTests.html

Random space performs a WF over the entire oscillator range. Genetic performs WF over a smaller range relative to the initial oscillator values.

If you don't use Genetic Algorithm Walk-Forward (WF), this figure (10,000 in the Example) is the amount of tests. 10,000 or more for 3 indicator system recommended. If repeated identical WF results very a lot with identical parameters, increase this figure.

Default WF method is Genetic Algorithm, not random space.


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[*] posted on 7-2-2023 at 09:54 PM


What is the recommended approach for adding an End of Week Exit in GSB? (Swing)
Is there already a Filter, ExitMode, or other? Or would setting the Exits.Minutes or Exits.Bars be the way to go?

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[*] posted on 8-2-2023 at 12:24 AM


I think we had a exit Friday option, but I cant find it. Ive asked programer for it



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[*] posted on 8-2-2023 at 07:43 PM


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We definatly dont have it, but i was confused as it was added into iblink.
Its on the to do list, but very unsure when. Depends what programer takes it on.
I know a number of users want the feature and it should be added.




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[*] posted on 9-2-2023 at 03:49 PM


Quote: Originally posted by admin  
I think we had a exit Friday option, but I cant find it. Ive asked programer for it


Hi Peter, I am also very sure I have seen this, are you sure its not been there ?
left hand side GUI..



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[*] posted on 9-2-2023 at 06:05 PM


I cant find it, and neither can the programmer. Regardless we will get the feature.



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[*] posted on 16-2-2023 at 10:10 AM


Hi Peter, GSBsys1ES soon to be approaching its max drawdown with out of sample results. Curious on your thoughts about it and the system. Thanks

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[*] posted on 16-2-2023 at 04:04 PM


Quote: Originally posted by timemeantnothing  
Hi Peter, GSBsys1ES soon to be approaching its max drawdown with out of sample results. Curious on your thoughts about it and the system. Thanks


Often the max combined dd, is just a result of the series of trades in past order.. look at the curve for short and long separate, look and try to see if you see a change in charachter, I dont... I think the combined result you see now, is just the series of outcome, from a random trade order of normal trade distribution for the system. also the max dd is very low, which most likely is to low for it to hold going forward.. so it will most likely break without system bad...

You also have lots of filters on these systems, test 1.1 which is the raw one, the review signal power alone, strip it of stops.

Anyway, pause it and switch it back on, when it reaches new highs, if you are worried,, nothing wrong with that, its a costly endeavour though


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[*] posted on 16-2-2023 at 05:35 PM


Good question.
Look at the hypothetical graph. $20 rt commission and $25 round turn slippage used.
Unusual in that the OOS last few years was better than IS- but i put that down to extremely good market conditions
note also how the OOS curve is choppier than the IS curve - again normal that oos is in some ways worse.
The previous oos drawdown from in sample results was about twice the later drawdown. Again this is normal. (as of a month ago)

Another factor is there was also one trade in the last 2 months that ts went long - stopped, but after data refresh made a good profit. Rare but it does happen for good and bad.
System trading is dangerous, and thats why I diversify. Systems can and do fail, but I think this is far from failed, and we also have a big cash buffer if you have traded this for a while.
I also use 4 * max drawdown as a capital base per system, NOT per portfolio. After 23 years I consistently see the aggressive traders blow up.
Look at today, numerous other systems had wins - but smaller than gsbsys1es that was stopped out
As im diversified, my account is just hitting new high level mark and then dropping down again numerous times this month - so for me insignificant drawdown
Its why I recommend not trade one system but many.
GSBsys1es has the longest track record, but personally I think the v2 variants are better, and the nq is nicely diversified. (I trade all variants though)
Also the flt versions are also totally different in characteristics.
I dont like stopping systems on a whim, I reduce and increase position size rather than drastic kill or double exposure to one system
Personally, the profits in the last 8 months have been amazing, but i didnt increase position size that much. But in all fairness have not done the maths to re balance my portfolio, mainly due to time pressures.
I also look at what are all the other similar systems doing in comparison. There are many variants of this, including numerous v2 variants on es / nq


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[*] posted on 16-2-2023 at 11:48 PM


Thank you for the replies

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[*] posted on 17-2-2023 at 04:29 PM



you are welcome but I forgot the graph
you can hit the thank button on posts (anyone can) which also saves an email being sent out to subscribers to the thread when content updated

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[*] posted on 17-2-2023 at 07:46 PM


Oh wow. Very interesting to see the OOS curve. Puts things into better perspective

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[*] posted on 17-2-2023 at 10:21 PM


agreeded, awesome run up but I suspect the v2 variants will out perform the v1 variants, and nq differs a decent amount from es

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[*] posted on 22-2-2023 at 09:11 PM


I ran GSB for the first time for NQ for 2001-01-01 to 2017-02-28 and have two questions:

1) Do the results from the workers get added to the Manager once they are done?

2) I only got around 20K results and not the 50K is that OK?


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[*] posted on 22-2-2023 at 11:03 PM


@sabrol,
I now use 20,000 in all tests. I havnt tested the difference of 20k vs 50 k for a very long time
20k or course is much faster.
Its likely on the left side of GSB, number of systems is set to 20k

Yes results from all your workers get added into the manager.




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[*] posted on 23-2-2023 at 06:22 AM


I ran GSB for the first time for NQ for 2001-01-01 to 2017-02-28 and have two questions:

1) Do the results from the workers get added to the Manager once they are done?

2) I only got around 20K results and not the 50K is that OK?


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[*] posted on 2-3-2023 at 05:38 AM


I belive someone asked about this before but cant find it right now. My WFO tests stall right after they pass 90% of the test. Before this was only a problem if using the manager, now its on the standalone also...

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[*] posted on 3-3-2023 at 01:13 AM


Quote: Originally posted by SwedenTrader  
I belive someone asked about this before but cant find it right now. My WFO tests stall right after they pass 90% of the test. Before this was only a problem if using the manager, now its on the standalone also...



see the forum
https://trademaid.info/forum/viewthread.php?tid=6&page=18




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