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Ketil
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I have a computer with the i9 -13900K and 128 mb RAM. It works fine when building systems (NQ-systems with the default settings) and the CPU runs at
100 %. But when the system building is finished, and the next step is getting the A-F stats the computer really slows down. As you can see from the
picture below it needs more than 2 hours to produce the stats. In this step the CPU is running at only 25 % of max. With my 10 years old i7 this is
done in about 30 minutes, so something must be wrong. I read in the GSB User manual that “the 13th generation CPU's run programs that are in the
background much slower than foreground, so the new tiled mode in GSB resource manager must be used.” I don’t know if this is the problem. I have set
"StartWorker Tiled" in the RM to TRUE, but that didn’t change anything when it comes to producing the stats. Hopefully someone can give med some
advice on how to solve this problem. Thanks.
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Ketil
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The problem in the post above is solved. It looks like it's an issue with the
nq-800-1500_30minBars_75i.gsbopt file, because then I tried one of my own NQ.gsbopt files the A-F stats were produced in approximately 10 minutes.
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Good your resolved.
Under app settings there is also amount of cores for nth dates etc. Increasing this can lead to faster stats, but be ware that short term ram useage
can increase a fair bit.
Likely less of on issue for you on 128 gb. Awesome machine you have 
Thanks received (1):
+1 Ketil at 2023-01-30 00:44:42
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I just purchased an intel i9 13900ks machine and wanted to share some of my experiences.
Specs are ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO motherboard, 2X32GB (64GB) G.Skill DDR5 6000 RAM, Samsung 500GB SSD, EVGA 850 GT power supply, Icegiant Prosiphon
cooler, Thermal Grizzly contact frame, Windows 10 Pro.
I bought the components and had them assembled at Micro Center in Mayfield Heights, OH (USA). Technicians seemed competent and helpful.
When I started running GSB on the machine I had overheating issues (without overclocking).
After opening the case and doing some tinkering I found the cooler was not securely fastened to the CPU.
I had to disassemble everything and take the bracket off that adapts the cooler to the motherboard and reinstall it making sure the bracket was
positioned so the when cooler was installed it would fit tightly.
Overheating problem solved so I started some mild overclocking. This machine is relatively easy to overclock using the intel Extreme Tuning Utility
or the ASUS BIOS.
The highest clock speed I have noticed (I haven't bench marked or seriously tinkered with the settings) are 6000 MHZ.
Cores generally bounce between 5700 & 6000 (mainly on the higher end). My core temps are 75-85C without any cores staying over 80C for more than 2-3
seconds.
Using 30 min data I can open 4-5 workers but any more than that I start running out of memory.
I opted to go with DDR5 RAM since I was building a top-end machine I hoped would last a few years before Moore's law tempted me to splash out another
couple thousand bucks.
When I tried to find 128GB of DDR5 RAM, G.Skill customer service told me the memory has to be installed in matched sets and they do not sell 4X32GB
modules.
They do not recommend mixing two 2X32GB sets of memory modules.
But that's not the only memory related issue I've had.
I have been persistently getting the Windows blue screen of death. After running the diagnostics tool it found my memory is bad and needs replaced.
I'm currently in the process of getting the old modules taken out so I can return them and I probably will replace them with 128GB of DDR4 RAM.
Although I haven't really had this machine functioning correctly yet I don't believe I would spend the extra $ on the KS version. I would go with the
K and DDR4 RAM knowing I could always upgrade in the future.
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Interesting & impressive
Sadly i have ddr4 ram due to it being left over from my AMD disaster of 3 years ago. (AMD speed was 1/4 comparable intel speed)
ddr4 ram is much slower, and similar price to ddr5, so i would get a ddr5 motherboard.
my machine is full with 4 x 16 gb ram ddr4 modules, and so I either need to replace them all with 4 32 gb ddr4
or get a new motherboard and get 4 ddr5 modules,
or I can leave as is.
Machine is delightfull but I cant max it out as I have 2 to 4 managers at a time, which uses most of my current 64 gb ram
Its important to have max speed for the managers if you are like me with massive cloud power from other machines.
Otherwise you main cloud can be idle while your workers are doing stats.
Much less an issue if you run 4 managers, but I do this roughly 50% of the time
what cpu cache voltage are you running to get the over clock?
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All of the overclocking I've done is with intel's Extreme Tuning Utility's "built-in" overclocking option or the ASUS Bios auto overclock feature.
I watch core temps but haven't paid much attention to some of the other variables.
When I get the bugs worked out I'll do a follow-up post with more detail.
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unrelated comment
my intel i9 13900 when running lowest possible clock speeds and under volt by 0.1 runs about the same speed as a dual intel 2690v2 but draws only 112
watts compare to about 400 on the dual 2690v2
This is really good for those who want to contribute to the free cloud without the high power consumption cost
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tialt
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I just wanted to do a follow-up on my 17-2-2023 post concerning my i9 13900KS build.
After two weeks back with the tech at Micro Center he was finally able to get it stable.
Changed the processor, motherboard (twice) and memory (several times) so now I have a i9 13900KS processor, 128GB of Corsair Vengeance 5200 DDR5 RAM &
ASRock z790 TAICHI motherboard.
When I got it back I had to remove and correctly install the Icegiant cooler (again) but everything is stable on Windows 10 Pro and I'm really happy
with the speed.
I've done some mild overclocking while keeping the temps within a reasonable range.
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good to hear, what clock speed /temp are you running? Most of us undervolt -.05 and dont over clock at all as temp too much as issue
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After some tweaking today I'm running the fastest I ever have and my CPU temps are 55-70C (mostly 55-60C).
I tried using Intel's OC utility but it was always running hot, ~80-85C and my system was pretty unstable so I tried ASRock's OC utility, in
performance mode and it has worked much better and is stable.
My speed is 4700-5200MHz (not too impressive for a machine capable of over 6000) but the CPU temps are 55-60C.
Using 30 min SPY & QQQ bars I'm running 8-9 workers with 75-85% CPU & RAM utilization and getting 16,000 to 20,000 systems/min.
I might try to change a few more settings but I'm really happy with the results so far and everything is stable!
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@tialt
I would like to benchmark your machine at some stage, but much too busy now. YOu might be able to view the asrock settings via the intel manager
amazing temps. You should be getting 100%cpu but note that win 11 cpu usage is busted for most apps. windows task manager is correct though
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I'm running Windows 10 Pro and the CPU usage is not correct either. I opened Task Manager & I'm maxing the CPU out at 7-9 workers.
Task Manager was 95-100% for the CPU and 75% for RAM, Resource Manager is showing about 75% for CPU & 75% for RAM.
I may give the Intel OC utility another try, after watching things for a while I was probably pushing everything a little too hard.
The Intel automatic OC mode is fast but pushes all my CPU temps to 90-100C whereas the ASRock utility performance mode is what I've been using to get
the speed & temps I've shared.
I will be out of town next week but sure you can benchmark it if you'd like.
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thanks for the offer. Under too much pressure to benchmark for now
I suspect the code that maximises fron ground apps from win 11 is being moved into win10. I think I saw the same issue on a win 10 before.
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I have 2 dual cpu 2680v2 servers with at least 128 gb of ram for sale, in a data center for $85 a month
Cost $280 for 128 gb
and $340 for 192 gb of ram
with windows server 2019 loaded.
email me if this is of interest.
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I'm in the process of putting together a new PC and was wondering if anyone has any experience with GSB and AMD Ryzen 9 PCs or even Intel's new Arrow
Lake processors?
I know Intel was much better than AMD with previous generations of processors, but I have no idea if that is the case with the new ones,
and buying a last or even second to last generation Intel processor doesn't seem to make much sense given their age and reported issues.
Is there a specific benchmark score I should be looking for when comparing processors on paper?
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hi Uhrbi
Good question.
cpubenchmark.net is a great guide for intel. Last I checked - and its been some time a amd score has to be scaled down by 50 to 75%, and it needs more
ram and copies of GSB to max the CPU out.
Second hand a dual cpu 2699v4 is best bang for buck.
You want at least 128 gb of ram for intel, with the option to increase if thats possible
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