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68.87 (not released yet) has a macro to save systems. (last macro in the list)
I didnt write down who the specific user was who wanted this, so if its you let me know.
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next release of GSB, macro to save all systems in .csv file.
Recommend you use the family command first to remove duplicates
File will be in C:\GSB\Data\Exports\Systems
 
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68.80 released to all users.
Next build after this has small bug fixes.
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Update for the week. Hoping in time to make some very significant expansion to GSB system architecture. I will keep you informed when this goes from
concept to product to test.
Also have done a lot of work on using vwap in existing systems. One user (forgot who) said they had good success on GSBsys1NQ. If anyone has success
let me know.
There are numerous variants of Vwap, and ways to use it, so a lot of time could be spent experimenting on this.
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GSB.68.910
bug fix and updated expiry code.
Have been doing a lot of research on other normalization modes. Extremely time consuming to do, but hope to have some idea how they work next week.
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i have all but 3 of the new normalzation modes working. Initial testing showed its going to be hard to beat centerscaling2 and highlowest2. But I will
know more in 24 hours or so. The new modes have been added into GSB automation next release.
Also working on buy/ sell entry stop. I expect this to be good on NQ and gold markets. Initial testing showed it worked well on NQ, but GSB TS code
results are miles out - so this has to be fixed to confirm
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Ive had very good success with the default NQ day trading settings, with new features of entering on stop of highest (high,x)
I also felt that the current default normalization mode Centerscaling2 (followed by second the best method highesthigh2 was the best.
However when I look at further out of sample results 20141112 to 20150515 other methods have done very well. Results include $5000 profit target as I
dont want the $30,000+ trades of 10th of april to allow GSB to curve fit to this day.
Enclosed is an example of one system I picked, that had superb out of sample results.
Many but not all systems did well on the Trump tariff era of feb march 2025 which hammered many - but not all systems. If you look in excel, period G
result is np/dd of 2024111 to 20150415. 28 trades were typical, so np/dd of 2 over this period is acceptable, esp when you consider any 30,000 wins
are removed by the 5k pt.
In excel what we care about is the f medium result and the amount of systems in Favorites D. (all of this done by GSB automation)
I will push this build in about a weeks time. If anyone wants to pre-test it, it may be ready this Tuesday
 
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Build 69.26 is almost ready for release. Just need to make the config files with new NQ settings.
Will be out early next week.
There will be new gsb automation with new features for the new GSB, and new gsb automation spread sheet.
4 new normalization modes are in gsb and buy stop highest high, buy limit lowest low etc (+ inverse for shorts)
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69.28 will be released soon to beta testers, and soon to all users. A fairly significant update.
Has the 5 normalization modes. Warning my testing show using them all at once will reduce overall out of sample performance, and be significantly
slower due to cache efficiency
new nq settings and data file is called "nq-800-1500_30minBars_75i-Long&ShortDayTrade-sysBuild_EtypeMultStop2+2008_20250515-AICWeights.gsboptset"
macros unchanged. nct3-300_build_gc_p0.90_pf1.6+stats_is2018.2_oos202411-Fast300B.gsbmacro
and greenMax10Min10.gsbmacro
new eld's supplied
supports new entry type AICW Any indicator crossed with weights.. Stand AIC has hard coded weights so we cross at zero mark
Has stop entry, ie buy at highest(high,10)+x stop and limit entry etc.
Suspect stop entry good for gold, but not tried it. its good for NQ
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+1 Bruce at 2025-06-06 00:01:42 +1 JozefSusko at 2025-05-28 07:35:20 +1 Piet at 2025-05-28 02:01:39 +1 Ketil at 2025-05-28 01:27:50
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Here are some nq result using various entry types. More are being added. Whats clear is buy at highest(high,x) is much better than buy at market.
what we care about is F results, systems in Fav BCD, and G result (next out of sample period)
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Released 69.36
implemented limit/stop @ CloseD(1), LowD(1), and HighD(1) and pivot orders
Stronly recommend to test these one at a time, not turn them all on at once. Most will be useless but on NQ and GC one was clearly the best (different
for each market)
added WF parameters (besides opt. parameters) to the Parameters tab, as a combo-bo
small cache improvement
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A very successful week building systems, and continuing to add more pivot entry types.
I worked methodically on the original gold settings using GSB automation, and got significant improvement. (The old settings were not great)
Then, an accident. changed one setting I should not have, - and no idea how I did that. Pure human error. Very significant improvement....
then a long time user who got my second gold system, sent it back but changing data1 to silver. Zero changes in settings, but zero slippage used here.
also, a trial user who I gave GC settings to came up with this. Perfect wf were oos, in sample and original system results all identical
Next build being tested for bugs, and still waiting on my entry types
You can also see on my first 2 gold systems, low correlation looking at the charts
 
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There are now 57 pivot type of entries if you include the stop / vs limit as a different type.
The Increase in out of sample median has increased on gold systems by 42% compared to earlier build of GSB.
The amount of systems in Favorites D has over doubled!
One of the newer entry types (not shown) is even better. Still doing more tests.
Other markets also confirmed the same thing.
Very exciting developments.
Very early days yet, but Gold systems out of sample is good. I will update you when im ready to release the build. Not to far away I hope.
 
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+1 JozefSusko at 2025-06-27 07:19:25 +1 Ketil at 2025-06-27 06:31:38 +1 Fadeout at 2025-06-27 05:47:04
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69.53 released. This is a major jump in out of sample performance to earlier builds of GSB
Included natural gas and gold day trading systems settings
to have a quick play, use the 40% in sample settings. To build systems use the sys build settings
IE NG_20250611_SysBuild
GC_20250611_SysBuild.PivotCamarillaStop2
GC_20250611_40%InSample.60-120Xmin.PivotCamarillaStop2
NG_20250611_40%InSample
New eld included
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+1 Frank at 2025-07-17 22:13:16 +1 Fadeout at 2025-07-06 16:00:18 +1 Ketil at 2025-07-04 06:05:34 +1 erlendsolberg at 2025-07-04 05:18:21
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Not able to load GC Optimization setting :-)
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Hi Fadeout
im keen to help you, but a message like you posted doesnt have enough info.
what build of GSB are you on? Do you have GSB resource manager running?
what was the error message(s)
did you try both gc settings and the ng settings?
Worst case we can do ultraviewer.net session
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Naturally :-)
Using latest - 69.53.
I have tried the NG settings, and with some sucess :-)
When trying to load the GC_20250611_SysBuild... , it wil not load into GSB. No error message.
I am on holiday for 11 days from tomorrow, but if no one else reports same problem, we may look at it together later.
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Hi,
I loaded both gsboptset files (GC and NG) into GSB 69.53. No issues here.
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Hi Fadeout,
I am aware of one issue, in that 4 entrymodes are enabled for one user, and i have a good idea why. Will look at that soon. For NG and GC, only
compare2 entry mode should be used. To get good results this is vip.
However thats not your issue.
are you on the beta settings? Again I dont expect that to be the cause, but its a small chance
https://trademaid.info/forum/viewthread.php?tid=249
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I tried to load GC_20250611_SysBuild.PivotCamarillaStop2 unsuccessfully, everything else loaded successfully
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Hi Jozef, can i look at this via ultraviewer.net. any time from 15 hours from now onwards
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Another significant week of development
Next release (not this week)
CL day trade settings update. Just as with nat gas and gold, new GSB has very significant increase in out of sample results.
The devil is in the details
I had a long term user amazed at the improvement of one setting. The secondary filter for stocks / indices has to be non ga/non normalized)
closelessclosedBPV
and for energies it has to be normalized (ga) closelessclosedBPV
what i was not aware of is the filter (if used) closelessclosedBPV is NOT normalized.
Next build we will have the normalized option as well.
This means you can combine a closelessClosedBPC and other secondary filters of your choice.
We have had for many years the option of data1, data2 etc.
Here is the problem. We could build using data2, and wrongly think results have improved. Problem is results always vary significantly from one run to
another, thats not bad and is documented elsewhere.
However your systems may never have even used data2. This can actually be seen in gsb automation spread sheet stats.
However we now have the option to only allow systems that use multiple data streams. Any that dont are never even tested.
That way we now are sure we can see the effect of having at least one indicator have data2.
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Hi Peter,
and is anywhere, please, summarized what is the actual methodology for which commodity or it is more just about macros? Thanks.
Quote: Originally posted by admin  | Another significant week of development
Next release (not this week)
CL day trade settings update. Just as with nat gas and gold, new GSB has very significant increase in out of sample results.
The devil is in the details
I had a long term user amazed at the improvement of one setting. The secondary filter for stocks / indices has to be non ga/non normalized)
closelessclosedBPV
and for energies it has to be normalized (ga) closelessclosedBPV
what i was not aware of is the filter (if used) closelessclosedBPV is NOT normalized.
Next build we will have the normalized option as well.
This means you can combine a closelessClosedBPC and other secondary filters of your choice.
We have had for many years the option of data1, data2 etc.
Here is the problem. We could build using data2, and wrongly think results have improved. Problem is results always vary significantly from one run to
another, thats not bad and is documented elsewhere.
However your systems may never have even used data2. This can actually be seen in gsb automation spread sheet stats.
However we now have the option to only allow systems that use multiple data streams. Any that dont are never even tested.
That way we now are sure we can see the effect of having at least one indicator have data2.
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Good question
if the work is all done, and for cl ng gc,nq it is
just load the settings, and do the two pass method.
first pass gets the top 10 inidcators (will vary somewhat each time its done) green10 macro
second pass builds systems with these indicators. (macro2 normally)
this puts systems in favourites a,b,c,d etc
then i change date of all systems in favD to all
then run the favourites command (we want no duplicate systems)
then look for high np/dd and high pearsons
then walk forward these systems.
this entire process may be repeated as results will vary significantly each time due to the massive amount of combinations
if you doing a new market... much more work and more complex
thats all under methodology
when i publish the next gsb automation spreadsheet on gc,ng,cl you will see the sorts of things ive tried
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+1 Ketil at 2025-07-16 07:00:00 +1 cico at 2025-07-12 13:13:09 +1 Bruce at 2025-07-11 10:58:28
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I'm finally getting back in and building systems. I finally found (some of) the optimization files, and when I load the macros I'm seeing
strangeness. Overall, things are working but when macro 2 is run, it gets down to StartBuildingSystems which it does, however while its still
building (after 100 or so systems), it continues down the macros when the systems haven't all been built. It seems to do this every time for me (in
the macro). So now I need to run the macro full through, edit it to move the "StartBuildingSystems" to the bottom and re-run it to get all the
favorites and stats to apply to all the systems (not just the 100 or so when the macro continued before the systems were done).
So how can I get the macro to wait until all the systems are built before continuing? I did bump up the MaxUniqSystems to 5000.
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