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Reading WF curves effectively
In the videos, it mentions that the WF Current is the curve that will be traded, however, the videos also mention that we are looking for a higher WFO
OOS curve. A few questions:
Is it the WFO OOS curve that we want to be higher than the test and training curve or is it the WF Current curve?
What is the relationship between the WF Current and WF OOS curves?
Do we also want the curves to line up as much as possible or be higher than the test and training curve?
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spikster667
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Trade Binance account with TS
I have setup a Binance account and found trading on there quite good. Their Futures section is great but they will now shut it down in Australia (23
Dec) until it is regulated properly.
Is there a way to trade on Binance using TS using all the easylanguage strategies that we can build? Or is it just MT that can do it. Anyone tried
linking to TS to Binance using the TS API?
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Good questions.
Nearly always the current curve will be higher than the wf curve.
Exceptions can be when fitness used is lower in oos curve, but net profit is not. If you dont understand this line ignore it.
as for relationship of curves.
Lets say we hit 100% parameter stability in the last 5 of 10 runs.
Then the two curves will be exactly parallel. This is great to have and sometimes achievable, but not always realistic
Being close to test / training curve is nice but doesnt matter too much.
If the parameters shift early & a lot, this will not be the case.
id you might get much more (or less number of trades) and this will cause the curves to shift a lot.
What I like is stability in parameters. It means the system has found parameters that are consistently best.
Parameters that are random are red flag
prentend we have
result=rsi(close,x)*average(pizza's eaten today,y)
paramaters in y are not going to be stable. x hopefully will be
Your questions might be covered deep in some videos, but no idea where. The questions you ask show your getting into some important concepts
It might be in the gold videos, but im not sure. Been a while since I looked at them
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Quote: Originally posted by spikster667  | I have setup a Binance account and found trading on there quite good. Their Futures section is great but they will now shut it down in Australia (23
Dec) until it is regulated properly.
Is there a way to trade on Binance using TS using all the easylanguage strategies that we can build? Or is it just MT that can do it. Anyone tried
linking to TS to Binance using the TS API? |
Bummer to hear about AU. Perhaps we are a communist country 
you can trade multicharts to Binance, but no idea how regulations affect this.
I cant get my Binace account open and have given up.
You can trade etf gbtc and thats straight forward. Enough volatility.
Ive built two GBTC systems that are in out of sample testing.
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Thanks.
Shame to hear about your Binance account not opening. I have setup 1 personal account and 1 corporate account. Both quite painless and in a few days
after I verified them.
Their futures section allowed leverage above 100x but that is a trap and closing in AU in 10 days. The spot market trading is also good with large
liquidity and low fees. TS crypto trading also looks interesting.
It seems the liquidity on CME Futures for BTC and ETH is increasing a bit now. Higher than EMD and similar to PL so not too bad. Just keen to keep
using Easylanguage auto strategies so the best option for TS at this stage. Will look at MT too.
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Interesting. I had a feature called parameter analysis / ai wf that never got ai added (yet) as its so complex
(its an option of right click of wf in GSB)
here is a different angle
analyses each parameter by AI first.
the ideal is a bell curve.
a total horizontal line is a orange/red flag. ie parameter y below
ie result=rsi(close,x)*average(close,y)/average(close,y)
orange flag is no pattern. ie results totally erratic.
Sometimes in systems, IE gsbsys1es and maybe gsbsys1gc there is one indicator that is not valid.
Its good to weed that out. It wont kill a system but will as a bare min improve WF stability scores etc.
Its more likely to degrade OOS
I dont do it all the time, but normally first system I make on a market, or a system that I release under systems for sale
https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/Systemsforsale.html
Most of these systems have been checked in this detailed way.
I dont see why AI cant do this as well as a human, or at least do the initial checkup. AI would be excellent for this.
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@Carl, @admin
I'm back on track after removal and new installation of TS.
Tried the repair option too, it didn't help.
Thank you for your support!
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@Carl, @admin
To the right thread this time. 
I'm back on track after removal and new installation of TS.
Tried the repair option too, it didn't help.
Thank you for your support!
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Ready to move to MultiCharts
I am growing tired of TS 32 bit. Slow and buggy and customer support is not good from Australia. I had my internet drop out last week and it broke TS
for a week. After about 20 reboots it started working but the "tradestation must shut down" screen is getting boring.
Hoping that MultiCharts with IB will be better. IB certainly has a lot more instruments on offer...
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For TS 9.5,
Saving the following as a .bat and executing it will completely terminate TS so you can get up and running again after a crash without rebooting. Can
save a lot of time.
****Begin Script (Next Line)*******
ECHO Killing TS Processes... >nul
taskkill /F /IM cache-import-win32.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM ELIS.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM ELCServer.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM GSD.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM Media.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM ORCAL.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM orchart.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM ORClean.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM ORCLPrxy.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM ORDllHst.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM ORPlat.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM PatchDownloader.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM PatchInstaller.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM PerformanceWindow.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM PMaestro.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM pmTradingCharts.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM TickShel.EXE 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM TradeStationAgentForms.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM TSBackupRestore.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM TSCrashReport.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM TSDev.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM TSELAppHost.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM TSELAppHost.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM TSELAppHost.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM TSELAppHost.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM TSELAppHost.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM TSELAppHost.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM TSFirstTimeUser.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM TSOA.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM TSOSPro.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM TSQuote.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM TSRPTS.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM TSScanner.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM TSSupp.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM UpdateViewer.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM WFO.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM WFOchs.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM WFOcht.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM WFOJ.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM WHInterface.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM WHServer.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM WHSPT.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM cegen.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM expce.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM pmBackupUtil.exe 2>nul
taskkill /F /IM pmCompare.exe 2>nul
taskkill /f /IM TsRTAServer.exe 2>nul
taskkill /f /IM TCGateway.exe 2>nul
ECHO Taskkill complete. >nul
timeout 1 >nul
exit
*****END SCRIPT****** (DO NOT COPY THIS and subsequent lines)
Hope this helps,
Tyler
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@spikster667,
what I think that does is use the wf paramaters as default for whats on the chart in gsb.
Whats important is that for live trading use the export for live trading option with wf parameters (not match check)
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| Quote: Originally posted by spikster667 | I am growing tired of TS 32 bit. Slow and buggy and customer support is not good from Australia. I had my internet drop out last week and it broke TS
for a week. After about 20 reboots it started working but the "tradestation must shut down" screen is getting boring.
Hoping that MultiCharts with IB will be better. IB certainly has a lot more instruments on offer... |
Hi Spikster, i think both platforms has its own quirks and faults, but after extensive usage one becomes a super user and finds ways to make either
work as reliable as possible. I have found MC to work very good and reliable with GSB developed systems, you will find that MC does not support
systems trading opposite directions and this will create headache that you need to find solutions to solve, (not possible to solve perfectly) unless
two accounts or custom adaptations of mc. But if only trading 1-2 systems per market this is not really an issue. In my case i trade around 8-9
systems per market and then this becomes a real problem. Regardless, i think Multicharts with gsb systems provides a very reliable setup, if you need
tips for MC just ask here
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Hi Spikster,
In my opinion there is no way you should trade from AU. Too much latency and reliability issues. The latency will cost you in fills on any markets
that dont have superb liquidity.
My VM service has been running for a long time, but im currently replacing TS execution entirely as its not super reliable.
https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/Videos.html
https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/AlertmonMonitoring.html
see https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/Purchase.html
Unrelated, I know how to get $ from AU into TS account for next to nothing. Using the banks directly will cost you about 4%
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Hi
What would the time format on the csv file be if i use normal market hours for the GC contract. Example for day trade is GC.1.minute.830_1500.Central.
What would it be if i use the full market time from Sunday afternoon until Friday close?
Any help would be appreciated
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| Quote: Originally posted by Ninerair929 | Hi
What would the time format on the csv file be if i use normal market hours for the GC contract. Example for day trade is GC.1.minute.830_1500.Central.
What would it be if i use the full market time from Sunday afternoon until Friday close?
Any help would be appreciated
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Golds a good market to trade.
Its well documented. 2 videos on it
https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/Videos.html
you can see the first gold system I made, still going well.
its roughty 330am - 130pm exchange time from memory.
230am to 130pm also ok
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Thank you
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GSB portfolio
Hi everyone new on this forum:
fighting against dd during a year and a half its not easy task as all we know but thanks to GSB systems has been easier task to climb into profits
again in a month period. Pleased to have this kind of systems.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Bearish4ever | Hi everyone new on this forum:
fighting against dd during a year and a half its not easy task as all we know but thanks to GSB systems has been easier task to climb into profits
again in a month period. Pleased to have this kind of systems. |
Glad your draw down is better. December seemed to be a nice month
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Function not imported
Hello everyone, I installed gsbsetup1.62.771, I started to run it and I tried to import a script in tradestation, but I can't verify it because the
GSB_DecisionExit7 function is missing, there are others such as GSB_DecisionExit5 but not 7, I have then I talked to a traderer friend of mine who in
turn did the same procedure and has the same problem. Depends on what? how can i fix it? A thousand thanks
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| Quote: Originally posted by reino888 | | Hello everyone, I installed gsbsetup1.62.771, I started to run it and I tried to import a script in tradestation, but I can't verify it because the
GSB_DecisionExit7 function is missing, there are others such as GSB_DecisionExit5 but not 7, I have then I talked to a traderer friend of mine who in
turn did the same procedure and has the same problem. Depends on what? how can i fix it? A thousand thanks |
Thanks for pointing that out. Files here
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| Quote: Originally posted by admin | | Quote: Originally posted by reino888 | | Hello everyone, I installed gsbsetup1.62.771, I started to run it and I tried to import a script in tradestation, but I can't verify it because the
GSB_DecisionExit7 function is missing, there are others such as GSB_DecisionExit5 but not 7, I have then I talked to a traderer friend of mine who in
turn did the same procedure and has the same problem. Depends on what? how can i fix it? A thousand thanks |
Thanks for pointing that out. Files here
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now it works and verifies perfectly, thanks
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Hello, how have you come to know that you have to use two data when building systems in crude oil.
What is the validation to know if you have to use 1, 2 or three datas?
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Hello
I need to know why I can't see the indicators after building in crude with macro 6. I right click and nothing appears. I've had two lost weeks of work
with this.
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All indicators enabled
When I open the manager only 79 of 149 indicators is enabled, see the attachment. How can I get all the indicators enabled when opening the manager?
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