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[*] posted on 9-11-2020 at 12:09 AM


Happy to say I have done 80% of the first of 3 video on Gold and GSB Automation. The video however has not been edited at all yet.
It will be about 30 minutes long




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[*] posted on 10-11-2020 at 04:44 PM


video fairly close to done, but im stuck. ts data feed stoped at 240 pm central usa time, and there is no phone support or chat support from ts.
cant phone them... que ie close.
Anyone else have this issue?
I know one other user who does, and one who does not
if you have the issue, please post here
https://community.tradestation.com/Discussions/Topic.aspx?To...
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[*] posted on 10-11-2020 at 05:08 PM


Quote: Originally posted by admin  
video fairly close to done, but im stuck. ts data feed stoped at 240 pm central usa time, and there is no phone support or chat support from ts.
cant phone them... que ie close.
Anyone else have this issue?
I know one other user who does, and one who does not
if you have the issue, please post here
https://community.tradestation.com/Discussions/Topic.aspx?To...
and let me know


after a few hours, issue resolved.....


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[*] posted on 10-11-2020 at 05:24 PM


funny, I had a similar issue then as well. seems to have been resolved...

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[*] posted on 11-11-2020 at 12:59 AM


Quote: Originally posted by meldinman  
funny, I had a similar issue then as well. seems to have been resolved...

please comment and or complain on ts forum.
Should it happen again, we are in big trouble as no fix on our side.


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[*] posted on 11-11-2020 at 01:00 AM


next video on GSB automation and gold is out. Please like the video, and comment on youtube also would be good.
https://youtu.be/VtxKY5saIR8
31 min long




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[*] posted on 12-11-2020 at 06:09 PM


I have sent out the conclusion of gold testing so far to the contrubutors of the project.
A big thank you to all of you.
If you fell of my email list, please email me.
Im now doing tests of 108 secondary filters. Glorious to have this all automated... all i need to do is wait... and few minutes work in excel.


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[*] posted on 19-11-2020 at 08:21 PM


Here is something im testing.
I choose 91 out of 110 or so indicators.
This was done by choosing all indicators, and take the most used ones.
Note: using all indicators is very slow, as there were at least 2 that did not work at all, and a few that don't match.
These are getting fixed or removed.
so if you look at this list of how often the indicators are used in the top 300, the least used indicators (lowest to be used, 27 of 91) were only used 10% of the time.
(Total indicators used was 884)
so if I don't use the bottom 27 indicators, how does this affect the stats?
Well stay tuned,and I will publish the results
This is done via gsb automation, and the newest visual basic spread sheet that comes with it.
Earlybird GSB automation discount expires midnight November 20 central USA time $600, then $700


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[*] posted on 20-11-2020 at 07:37 PM


Likely im going to make a new optional but highly recommend step in the methodology on indicator selection.
The big question is, what should the initial indicator selection be?
46, 110 or other combinations.?
in the above example we got bcd 6.65 with 123.25 systems in fav B
I now have this up to bcd 9.05 and 171.5 in fav B
It will be a few days of testing, but the initial results look very clear, and the theory behind it makes common sense when you think about it
do not user fisher, fisherinv (they give 0 and invfinate in ts)//using these I think slows gsb down greatly
percent (not match)
parabolic not match




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[*] posted on 23-11-2020 at 03:55 AM


my new method works significantly better on GC 200,230,300 to 1230 with closedbpv secondary filter
and gc 630 TO 1230 WITH a number of other secondary filters.
Hope to publish more in a few days.
basically if you build with 117 indicators with a fair bit of variation.
ie i did 4 tests with 3 session times, closedbpv sf and 4 tests with 6 sf
you then use the indicators used in favourites A to build your systems.
the list is different for the 2amish session time vs the 630 am session time
630 am had much bigger list of indicators, likely as there is much more variation due to varied sf used at 630


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[*] posted on 24-11-2020 at 09:28 AM


GSB automation has vastly improved my workflow. Working On a GC portfolio with the help of peters macros. seems like a good time to be trading Gold with volatility in gold starting to rise.
So far up to two systems with low negative correlation. shuffling through sessions and SF indicators makes all the difference.


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[*] posted on 24-11-2020 at 03:49 PM


Quote: Originally posted by meldinman  
GSB automation has vastly improved my workflow. Working On a GC portfolio with the help of peters macros. seems like a good time to be trading Gold with volatility in gold starting to rise.
So far up to two systems with low negative correlation. shuffling through sessions and SF indicators makes all the difference.

great your work seems to confirm mine. Its unusually easy to make low correlation gold systems. Going to get better with two session times and multiple secondary filters for the 630 (central usa time) ones




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[*] posted on 6-12-2020 at 05:21 AM



See TS forum.
https://community.tradestation.com/Discussions/Topic.aspx?To...

Maybe the local time/exchange time chart issue from two months ago is back again. For more information, see earlier posts in this thread.

I checked and my price data looks fine (@ES and @CL), so no issue here.
But check your own charts to be sure.




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[*] posted on 6-12-2020 at 06:35 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Carl  

See TS forum.
https://community.tradestation.com/Discussions/Topic.aspx?To...

Maybe the local time/exchange time chart issue from two months ago is back again. For more information, see earlier posts in this thread.

I checked and my price data looks fine (@ES and @CL), so no issue here.
But check your own charts to be sure.




I checked this issue and still have the identical TS issue to what KevinKdog posted


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[*] posted on 7-12-2020 at 06:48 AM


not really the correct place to post this, but interactive brokers is down. status page says its ok, but ib rep said thats part of the problem, they cant access it
They have no idea when it will be resolved


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[*] posted on 7-12-2020 at 07:53 AM


having issues still, hope it is resolved prior to the open

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[*] posted on 7-12-2020 at 11:03 AM


Quote: Originally posted by meldinman  
having issues still, hope it is resolved prior to the open

I KNOW OF 4 ACCOUNTS THAT are working, but one still is not.
1 of my 2 accounts work


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[*] posted on 7-12-2020 at 01:20 PM


both my accounts work now. Later today Im going to have a outage thread to post these issues. Please subscribe if your interested

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[*] posted on 8-12-2020 at 11:43 PM


60.44 released.
More gsb functions in eld included
counter trendhlv2 & counter trendhl2v2 The old versions had a bug and likely would not work
Countertrendmedian added


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[*] posted on 15-12-2020 at 03:51 PM


im back from leave
Heres some photos
workers for gold project appreciated for those who are contributing and shut them down of recent.

Im also adding into next build GSB all the counter trend- not normalized.
No idea if it will work or not

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[*] posted on 16-12-2020 at 05:38 PM


Ive been looking recently at the settings users are using on GSB.
I used to do this regularly, but have not done so for some time.
Here is what I saw
40% of users were doing great
10% should have made some small tweaks.
50% look like they have little idea of what they are doing.
I think it was in the First gold video, I spoke on what happens when I have a diesel car, the wife a petrol car, and we put diesel and petrol in both cars.
This is the equivalent to the user who just goes clicking settings, thinking they know what they are doing - but do not know what they are doing.
The default behavior should be, do not change a setting from default unless you have a good reason too.
In life, gurus who are persistent -who make a mistake sometimes come up with a gem. People who have no idea what they are doing, and then make a mistake rarely come up with a gem
Use the methodology. It works well and this is reflected in my trading account balance - which is why we are all here.

So lets summarize some of the methodology
MAKE A BENCHMARK of 50,000 systems with 250 or 300 in Favorites A, change ONE thing at a time and see how it changes the benchmark
If you fail to do this, you are playing pin the tail on the donkey with your eyes closed.

We need to choose a market. Some markets are easy for GSB, some near impossible - but that can change as GSB architecture is expanded, or we crack the unique characteristic of each market.
Some markets are good, but not always hot to trade. CL later this year was just fair, but I think im JUST at new highs again on my first system since april.
Other markets @US for example are extremely hard.
If your a new user and your working on a market no one else has, your more likely to be in for a very slow journey - though there are many markets I suspect will work great with GSB.
If your a new user on a not well known market and low amount of CPU power, it will take you near forever to make progress.
It takes me a long time to learn a market, but the time decreases significantly each time. This is due to what we have learnt, GSB automation, and the massive power of GSB users working together.
GSB has community and collective knowledge. Being a lone ranger is not likely to work well.

So session time. Trade where the volume and range are. see video market validation1
https://trademaid.info/gsbhelp/Videos.html
So if you say, im going to try 24 hour data, you have broken the methodology, your results will be crap, and you have wasted a lot of time.
The exception is ES that can enter about 1715 and exit 1500, long only (not much work done on this, but I am live trading one non GSB system going this written by myself)

Overall day trading is best, and my preference and where my expertise is. If you do swing trading, likely you trade long only

settings, im going in order
Operators
use * only. + is almost as good, but needs other settings changed. To use +/- at once will give some different systems, but overall will be significantly worse and slow to build
Entry modes. Each market is unique. Never mix entry modes at the same time. IE use only 1. The exception is cross entry types which are so close to each other, its less critical

More tomorrow on this...
Normalization modes.
Beta users have access to 4 mode modes.
Highestlowest3 and centerscaling3 should never be used.
They were designed to fix MC or TS bug where highest / lowest gave incorrect results.
Unless the start date of gsb and ts/mc code is the same, results wont match.
If you change start date of ts chart, results will change. I likely will revoke these 2 normalization modes.
Centerscaling2 I think is slightly better than HighestLowest2
Weights mode. The short story is leave as is. Should you use + operand etc, might need a tweak to improve things.

SECONDARY FILTER.
This is critical to get best results.
If you don't know what your doing leave on AUTO.
indices need closedminusclosebpv (not normalized) and most other markets need GA (normally with closedminusClosebpv)
disable secondary filter for tick data or daily data. dont disable for intra day data
Today's build has a variety of countertrend non normalized SF
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I suspect countertrend not normalized might work ok on ES, but have not tested yet. New GSB users best not experiment here.


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[*] posted on 16-12-2020 at 06:12 PM


Thanks for this write up, I think many people get confused and aren't properly using GSB due to sometimes unclear or conflicting information from various places (documentation, youtube channel, forum etc) It's easy to get tripped up when trying to make sure all settings are properly set when one is trying to build systems for a new market.

While automation has definitely helped ensure consistency of settings inputs, I think what may be helpful is a macro folder with settings for each market that has been developed so far with GSB. This would allow users to easily reset to the default settings for their market before they try to tweak any settings if they ever stray of course. Due to the various settings its very easy to miss something in a build on one of the settings option or become confused with which parameters to apply for correct methodology on that given market.
I know some of the markets already have a macro setting but I think a folder with one macro or each market may be useful?




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[*] posted on 16-12-2020 at 06:26 PM


Quote: Originally posted by meldinman  
Thanks for this write up, I think many people get confused and aren't properly using GSB due to sometimes unclear or conflicting information from various places (documentation, youtube channel, forum etc) It's easy to get tripped up when trying to make sure all settings are properly set when one is trying to build systems for a new market.

While automation has definitely helped ensure consistency of settings inputs, I think what may be helpful is a macro folder with settings for each market that has been developed so far with GSB. This would allow users to easily reset to the default settings for their market before they try to tweak any settings if they ever stray of course. Due to the various settings its very easy to miss something in a build on one of the settings option or become confused with which parameters to apply for correct methodology on that given market.
I know some of the markets already have a macro setting but I think a folder with one macro or each market may be useful?

I agree about what you write. GSB like a spectacular starship enterprise with an entire universe to explore.
As a rule more recent documentation /video is better than older material.
I agree, the macros etc to should be done for each market.
Likely I will add gold macros in auto updates in time
Macros should be used, to stop human error and get the correct setup.
Even I who know what im doing, make screwups in settings from time to time.


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[*] posted on 17-12-2020 at 07:48 PM


I have update my post above "ive been looking recently at the settings users are using on GSB."

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[*] posted on 17-12-2020 at 07:54 PM


Thanks, this kind of information is very helpful to new users like me. The program is so versatile I get lost and forget where I am heading.



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