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[*] posted on 25-11-2019 at 03:16 AM


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Hi Peter,

If you build say 50,000 systems then (either manually or with a macro) put statistics into StatsA, which 10,000 systems get saved?

eg first 10,000 built? best 10,000 according to profit factor? best 10,000 according to fitness? etc

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macro 1 will pick the top 250/500/1000.
For indicator testing, im now doing 20k systems, sorting fitness, then putting top 10,000 into favA. This is shown in detail in the next video. due out in 48 hours or less (i hope)


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[*] posted on 25-11-2019 at 03:28 AM


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Quote: Originally posted by JasonT  
Hi Peter,

If you build say 50,000 systems then (either manually or with a macro) put statistics into StatsA, which 10,000 systems get saved?

eg first 10,000 built? best 10,000 according to profit factor? best 10,000 according to fitness? etc

Thanks,

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edit the macro and look. its fitness, but must have pearons .9 and pf 1.5, min trades 100

macro 1 will pick the top 250/500/1000.
For indicator testing, im now doing 20k systems, sorting fitness, then putting top 10,000 into favA. This is shown in detail in the next video. due out in 48 hours or less (i hope)


Thanks Peter,

The future video plans sound great.

However I still don't know what you mean by the 'top' 250/500/1000. What does top mean? Top, measured by what?


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[*] posted on 25-11-2019 at 05:01 AM


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For indicator testing, im now doing 20k systems, sorting fitness, then putting top 10,000 into favA. This is shown in detail in the next video. due out in 48 hours or less (i hope)


By the way, I tried to build 50000 systems for indicator testing, and then ran "IndicatorStats+FullSettingsReset_new.gsb" macro on them.

(documentation mentions IndicatorStats.macro, but there is no direct download link, and GSB comes with "IndicatorStats+FullSettingsReset_new.gsbmacro" - so that's what I'm using.)

I was expecting this macro to finish in maybe 10-15 minutes. But it worked for 8-12 hours or so. That was quite surprising.

How long IncdicatorStats macro is expected to run?


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[*] posted on 25-11-2019 at 11:38 AM



Jason[/rquote]
However I still don't know what you mean by the 'top' 250/500/1000. What does top mean? Top, measured by what?[/rquote]

Jason. Top 250/500/1000 measured by fitness (default is Net Profit × Average Trade Size)


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[*] posted on 25-11-2019 at 01:22 PM


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Jason[/rquote]
However I still don't know what you mean by the 'top' 250/500/1000. What does top mean? Top, measured by what?[/rquote]

Jason. Top 250/500/1000 measured by fitness (default is Net Profit × Average Trade Size)


Awesome. Thanks very much :)


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[*] posted on 25-11-2019 at 01:34 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Sten  
Quote: Originally posted by admin  

For indicator testing, im now doing 20k systems, sorting fitness, then putting top 10,000 into favA. This is shown in detail in the next video. due out in 48 hours or less (i hope)


By the way, I tried to build 50000 systems for indicator testing, and then ran "IndicatorStats+FullSettingsReset_new.gsb" macro on them.

(documentation mentions IndicatorStats.macro, but there is no direct download link, and GSB comes with "IndicatorStats+FullSettingsReset_new.gsbmacro" - so that's what I'm using.)

I was expecting this macro to finish in maybe 10-15 minutes. But it worked for 8-12 hours or so. That was quite surprising.

How long IncdicatorStats macro is expected to run?


Sten, I don't have access to the particular macro file you refer to for some reason but I came up with my own macro based on "MarketValidationStats" but with some minor changes based on a particular type of test I wanted to perform. I'll post the results sometime this week. A screen shot of the macro is attached for your comparison.

I first build 50k systems and this takes anywhere between 5-30 minutes depending on what resources are available and then I run the macro.

It usually then takes me 3-4 hours to run the macro on a laptop with an i7 2.2Ghz CPU.



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[*] posted on 25-11-2019 at 02:41 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JasonT  

Sten, I don't have access to the particular macro file you refer to for some reason but I came up with my own macro based on "MarketValidationStats" but with some minor changes based on a particular type of test I wanted to perform. I'll post the results sometime this week. A screen shot of the macro is attached for your comparison.

I first build 50k systems and this takes anywhere between 5-30 minutes depending on what resources are available and then I run the macro.

It usually then takes me 3-4 hours to run the macro on a laptop with an i7 2.2Ghz CPU.


JasonT, thanks! So, it's ok for the IndicatorStats macro to run for several hours.


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[*] posted on 25-11-2019 at 03:51 PM


The next video explains this all and there are refinements to the methodology. While im happy with the content of the new video, i would like to redo much of it to be more polished. Regardless it should be out in < 48 hours. This video is just so over due and will be really helpful for all. Its many months of work for <30 min of info



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[*] posted on 26-11-2019 at 02:41 AM


Hi Peter,

Thanks for the effort you put into your videos. You pack a lot of information into them and they are very useful.


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[*] posted on 27-11-2019 at 02:44 PM


Question Peter, when i tried today to make a indicator stats save top 10 indicators, in my example for CL, one of them was fractal dimension... however when i am chosing top 10, it only shows that i saved 9, fractal dimension is not anywhere in the indicators... so in reality... i am chosing top 10, popup window confirming that i want to save all 10 and specifying fractal dimension... but then on the left side in GUI, under indicators... it says 9... very strange... or is it just me that misunderstand something?

Also, do you sort on ratio or top when you pick indicators?
And if you shall chose top 10, and first 5 is greeen, then two orangea, and then 5 green, do you just pick all the green first?

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[*] posted on 27-11-2019 at 03:04 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Daniel UK1  
Question Peter, when i tried today to make a indicator stats save top 10 indicators, in my example for CL, one of them was fractal dimension... however when i am chosing top 10, it only shows that i saved 9, fractal dimension is not anywhere in the indicators... so in reality... i am chosing top 10, popup window confirming that i want to save all 10 and specifying fractal dimension... but then on the left side in GUI, under indicators... it says 9... very strange... or is it just me that misunderstand something?

Also, do you sort on ratio or top when you pick indicators?
And if you shall chose top 10, and first 5 is greeen, then two orangea, and then 5 green, do you just pick all the green first?

Thanks.

I don't understand how that can be an issue, as ive never seen it. You have to have the indicators high-lighted then save. (likely you know that) I would like to see this via teamviewer. Worst case you can manually turn fractal on.
What we choose is sorted by frequency, and then by ratio. Both are important but i work on freq, then ratio. Yes, I would do by colors first.
There may even be some small variation from one test to another on the marginal indicators, so likely the process isnt exact & totally critical


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[*] posted on 27-11-2019 at 05:40 PM


If any one else wants a complete installer with the settings / files macros used in the video, please email me.
(A few users have asked already)
Note it will over write your C:\GSB\Data\price data.txt file, so back this file up

I need people to check all the settings are ok for new users etc, including CL etc.
Im working on this now and hope to get it done later today


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[*] posted on 28-11-2019 at 01:48 AM


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Quote: Originally posted by Daniel UK1  
Question Peter, when i tried today to make a indicator stats save top 10 indicators, in my example for CL, one of them was fractal dimension... however when i am chosing top 10, it only shows that i saved 9, fractal dimension is not anywhere in the indicators... so in reality... i am chosing top 10, popup window confirming that i want to save all 10 and specifying fractal dimension... but then on the left side in GUI, under indicators... it says 9... very strange... or is it just me that misunderstand something?

Also, do you sort on ratio or top when you pick indicators?
And if you shall chose top 10, and first 5 is greeen, then two orangea, and then 5 green, do you just pick all the green first?

Thanks.

I don't understand how that can be an issue, as ive never seen it. You have to have the indicators high-lighted then save. (likely you know that) I would like to see this via teamviewer. Worst case you can manually turn fractal on.
What we choose is sorted by frequency, and then by ratio. Both are important but i work on freq, then ratio. Yes, I would do by colors first.
There may even be some small variation from one test to another on the marginal indicators, so likely the process isnt exact & totally critical



Hi Peter, this is very confusing, i brought up a new GSB manager, and loaded the opt version that i used to build my 50k systems on for indicator stats, this one has all the indicators... i can not see any fractal dimension indicator.. this is the opt setting i used when i saved 10 indicators including the fractal dimension that was amont the top... but its not there? i then brought up a new instance of manager, worker and standalone... none has fractal dimension..... so its impossible for me to turn on manually.... but the biggst question is, how can fractional dimension being used to build on, when its not in the list ? then we have the other option that i am just confused or misunderstanding something.. kindly let me know... btw do you have fractional dimension in your list of indicators if you are using a standard version public available?

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[*] posted on 28-11-2019 at 02:01 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Daniel UK1  
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Quote: Originally posted by Daniel UK1  
Question Peter, when i tried today to make a indicator stats save top 10 indicators, in my example for CL, one of them was fractal dimension... however when i am chosing top 10, it only shows that i saved 9, fractal dimension is not anywhere in the indicators... so in reality... i am chosing top 10, popup window confirming that i want to save all 10 and specifying fractal dimension... but then on the left side in GUI, under indicators... it says 9... very strange... or is it just me that misunderstand something?

Also, do you sort on ratio or top when you pick indicators?
And if you shall chose top 10, and first 5 is greeen, then two orangea, and then 5 green, do you just pick all the green first?

Thanks.

I don't understand how that can be an issue, as ive never seen it. You have to have the indicators high-lighted then save. (likely you know that) I would like to see this via teamviewer. Worst case you can manually turn fractal on.
What we choose is sorted by frequency, and then by ratio. Both are important but i work on freq, then ratio. Yes, I would do by colors first.
There may even be some small variation from one test to another on the marginal indicators, so likely the process isnt exact & totally critical



Hi Peter, this is very confusing, i brought up a new GSB manager, and loaded the opt version that i used to build my 50k systems on for indicator stats, this one has all the indicators... i can not see any fractal dimension indicator.. this is the opt setting i used when i saved 10 indicators including the fractal dimension that was amont the top... but its not there? i then brought up a new instance of manager, worker and standalone... none has fractal dimension..... so its impossible for me to turn on manually.... but the biggst question is, how can fractional dimension being used to build on, when its not in the list ? then we have the other option that i am just confused or misunderstanding something.. kindly let me know... btw do you have fractional dimension in your list of indicators if you are using a standard version public available?


best look via teamviewer, cant tell much more via your comments


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[*] posted on 28-11-2019 at 02:09 AM


Yes lets do TV, in about 1h if possible.... meanwhile can you confirm that when you open your public released manager, and opening up all indicators can see fractional dimension in this list?


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[*] posted on 28-11-2019 at 03:13 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Daniel UK1  
Yes lets do TV, in about 1h if possible.... meanwhile can you confirm that when you open your public released manager, and opening up all indicators can see fractional dimension in this list?

the reason is your not in gsb admin mode
This has more (often experimental ) features
https://trademaid.info/forum/viewthread.php?tid=92


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[*] posted on 28-11-2019 at 06:23 AM


Thank you Peter for fixing the issue i had with fractional indicator... Btw one thing that complicates things, is that if you have saved an opt setting several managher version ago, and since then lots of new features and inidcators, options have been added.... if you just load your old saved opt setting, you cna never be sure that those options once saved is really in the newly opened opt setting in the new manager version, since it seems that all new features is set to auto active/true..... would it not be better if it was an option that new features to be turned on, in this way you can be sure that previous saved opt setting, is the same when you open it next year :)

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[*] posted on 28-11-2019 at 04:06 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Daniel UK1  
Thank you Peter for fixing the issue i had with fractional indicator... Btw one thing that complicates things, is that if you have saved an opt setting several managher version ago, and since then lots of new features and inidcators, options have been added.... if you just load your old saved opt setting, you cna never be sure that those options once saved is really in the newly opened opt setting in the new manager version, since it seems that all new features is set to auto active/true..... would it not be better if it was an option that new features to be turned on, in this way you can be sure that previous saved opt setting, is the same when you open it next year :)

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I will think on that. Totally see your perspective and the merits of it.
In the next build there are lots of tweaks to the defaults, which will help this situation. That might be a good idea for GSB 2.0
For now just watch this thread for new features added, and turn them off if needed.
You have the impersonate feature added (beta tester mode) so we could have impersonate build xyz. Not sure how much work to add this for every new feature


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[*] posted on 29-11-2019 at 01:54 AM


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Quote: Originally posted by Daniel UK1  
Thank you Peter for fixing the issue i had with fractional indicator... Btw one thing that complicates things, is that if you have saved an opt setting several managher version ago, and since then lots of new features and inidcators, options have been added.... if you just load your old saved opt setting, you cna never be sure that those options once saved is really in the newly opened opt setting in the new manager version, since it seems that all new features is set to auto active/true..... would it not be better if it was an option that new features to be turned on, in this way you can be sure that previous saved opt setting, is the same when you open it next year :)

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I will think on that. Totally see your perspective and the merits of it.
In the next build there are lots of tweaks to the defaults, which will help this situation. That might be a good idea for GSB 2.0
For now just watch this thread for new features added, and turn them off if needed.
You have the impersonate feature added (beta tester mode) so we could have impersonate build xyz. Not sure how much work to add this for every new feature


Ok great Peter, sounds good.
However i dont think any new defaults will solve this, since when you load your pre saved opt setting, you dont want any defaults really.

I think the beta tester mode or standard does not matter since problem is the same issue for a standard mode user.

Somehow the user that loads the opt setting from any time point, must be able to be sure that what he loads is exactly the same now as when it was when it was saved.
Its actually very important since you might have had to build millions of systems and spent weeks or months of testing to arrive to this specific opt setting, so one want to be pretty sure that when you load it in 6 month, it has to be exactly the same...

If you dont want to change things for standard version, Perhaps easiest thing would be to have all new release features in beta mode, being non active as standard. And perhaps from software dropdown meny, have release notes, indicating all new features in this release so you can play with them if you want.


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[*] posted on 29-11-2019 at 03:29 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Daniel UK1  
I think the beta tester mode or standard does not matter since problem is the same issue for a standard mode user.

Somehow the user that loads the opt setting from any time point, must be able to be sure that what he loads is exactly the same now as when it was when it was saved.


I second on this. Professional software should have backward compatibility in settings not only between standard/beta mode, but also for the current and previous versions. User should be confident GSB loads the exact settings stored in the file and report errors if some settings can not be applied on this build.

This is extremely important for GSB, which is very sensitive to the setting changes.


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Quote: Originally posted by Sten  
Quote: Originally posted by Daniel UK1  
I think the beta tester mode or standard does not matter since problem is the same issue for a standard mode user.

Somehow the user that loads the opt setting from any time point, must be able to be sure that what he loads is exactly the same now as when it was when it was saved.


I second on this. Professional software should have backward compatibility in settings not only between standard/beta mode, but also for the current and previous versions. User should be confident GSB loads the exact settings stored in the file and report errors if some settings can not be applied on this build.

One simple alternative could be to make all new features turned off. The negatives to this are new features could be really worth having, and the average user is not going to notice they are added, or read the docs / forum

This is extremely important for GSB, which is very sensitive to the setting changes.


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[*] posted on 3-12-2019 at 01:10 AM


Hi, Peter

Can GSB build system with Stop/Limit order for Entry? or only with market order(this bar on close)?

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Hi, Peter

Can GSB build system with Stop/Limit order for Entry? or only with market order(this bar on close)?

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Hi Vincent,
I think this is important to do, but right now cant be done. It will be in GSB 2.0
Not sure the release date but what you have asked also is not a hard thing to program. I may be able to get it earlier. There is just a massive list of features that we still want to add.




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Quote: Originally posted by Sten  
Quote: Originally posted by Daniel UK1  
I think the beta tester mode or standard does not matter since problem is the same issue for a standard mode user.

Somehow the user that loads the opt setting from any time point, must be able to be sure that what he loads is exactly the same now as when it was when it was saved.


I second on this. Professional software should have backward compatibility in settings not only between standard/beta mode, but also for the current and previous versions. User should be confident GSB loads the exact settings stored in the file and report errors if some settings can not be applied on this build.

This is extremely important for GSB, which is very sensitive to the setting changes.


Hi Peter, how did things go with this? this is extremely important... i just realised that all my saved opt settings, are really of no use... i have spent thousands of hours, months, building milltions of systems... to arrive to specific opt settings... that its not possible today to load back on, and be sure to 100% that this is the settings that was saved.... this is important that we get a solution to... i need as a user, to be able to be sure to 110%, that my opt setting i saved 6 month ago, can be loaded today and that i will get the exact same settings as when it was saved... it should not matter what mode i am in.... even though i keep detailed notes of each test... i still can note down every little piece of info to make the opt setting saved redundant... i think everyone can agree that we need a solution to this quickly. Many thanks Peter


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Quote: Originally posted by Daniel UK1  
Quote: Originally posted by Sten  
Quote: Originally posted by Daniel UK1  
I think the beta tester mode or standard does not matter since problem is the same issue for a standard mode user.

Somehow the user that loads the opt setting from any time point, must be able to be sure that what he loads is exactly the same now as when it was when it was saved.


I second on this. Professional software should have backward compatibility in settings not only between standard/beta mode, but also for the current and previous versions. User should be confident GSB loads the exact settings stored in the file and report errors if some settings can not be applied on this build.

This is extremely important for GSB, which is very sensitive to the setting changes.


Hi Peter, how did things go with this? this is extremely important... i just realised that all my saved opt settings, are really of no use... i have spent thousands of hours, months, building milltions of systems... to arrive to specific opt settings... that its not possible today to load back on, and be sure to 100% that this is the settings that was saved.... this is important that we get a solution to... i need as a user, to be able to be sure to 110%, that my opt setting i saved 6 month ago, can be loaded today and that i will get the exact same settings as when it was saved... it should not matter what mode i am in.... even though i keep detailed notes of each test... i still can note down every little piece of info to make the opt setting saved redundant... i think everyone can agree that we need a solution to this quickly. Many thanks Peter


Going forward I will be able to take of this in a in a better way. I hope also to do a short video on windiff. You can compare old and new settings.
Lets say you load old settings into a new version of worker, then save them as xyz.new. You can see what new features were added in the config. There is another solution I will email you about too.
All whats happened in last builds is 4 new inidcators, new entry types, post build (nth, date) moving from app settings to opt settings


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