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General questions about GSB
Greetings community,
I have been researching machine learning, reverse engineering, and builders for a couple weeks and am looking forward to diving in head first in the
new year when other life obligations should slow down for me. I like what I've read about GSB the most when it comes to selecting a builder. I have
to admit that I registered for the forum today hoping that I might find a Black Friday sale on GSB haha.
If the creator or other users have time to answer any of these questions, it would be great.
1. Is the code created by a GSB user solely the property of the user and it is kept private from everyone else (unless of course they choose to
share)? For example, are Trademaid employees able to view user generated strategies?
2. Does GSB work on all markets (stocks, etf's, etc.) or only on Futures?
3. Does GSB have the ability to potentially reverse engineer a strategy for a particular set of 3 symbols based on:
- a certain total number of trades
- profit factor
- drawdown
- winning %
- specific days that trades were made
4. Is a "plain language" description of strategies generated or only the EL code?
I realize that some of these answers could be found by using the demo, however, there are a multiple builders out there and the sheer volume of
information and exploration is overwhelming for someone who is a trader but not an algo or programmer...
I appreciate any help to jumpstart this awesome new hobby!
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Quote: Originally posted by CandyMachine  | Greetings community,
I have been researching machine learning, reverse engineering, and builders for a couple weeks and am looking forward to diving in head first in the
new year when other life obligations should slow down for me. I like what I've read about GSB the most when it comes to selecting a builder. I have
to admit that I registered for the forum today hoping that I might find a Black Friday sale on GSB haha.
If the creator or other users have time to answer any of these questions, it would be great.
1. Is the code created by a GSB user solely the property of the user and it is kept private from everyone else (unless of course they choose to
share)? For example, are Trademaid employees able to view user generated strategies?
2. Does GSB work on all markets (stocks, etf's, etc.) or only on Futures?
3. Does GSB have the ability to potentially reverse engineer a strategy for a particular set of 3 symbols based on:
- a certain total number of trades
- profit factor
- drawdown
- winning %
- specific days that trades were made
4. Is a "plain language" description of strategies generated or only the EL code?
I realize that some of these answers could be found by using the demo, however, there are a multiple builders out there and the sheer volume of
information and exploration is overwhelming for someone who is a trader but not an algo or programmer...
I appreciate any help to jumpstart this awesome new hobby! |
1) Its yours, private but systems built can be seen by anyone who provides GSB cloud workers to you - If you choose to use GSB workers on other
peoples machines.
2) GSB works on lots of markets, but its a entire universe to explore. Changes in GSB architecture that I am planning right now are going to expand
the markets.
Easiest markets and s&p500 and crude oil. vxx short, sqqq, tqqq, apple (+ fang stocks) are some of the markets GSB users have built systems on.
3) Im not clear on reverse engineer. GSB can filter on those metrics except specific days that trades were made
4) GSB systems are (over simplified)
result =osc1*osc2*osc3
secondaryfilter=close>prevdaysclose
if secondaryfilter=true and result>0 then buy
So simple to understand. You dont need significant programming skills for GSB
https://trademaid.info/forum/viewthread.php?tid=4
You will get a faster reply if you post in general support, as then all subscribed users get an email when you post.
GSB doesnt have significant marketing, free steak knives with purchase or hype. Im a trader who made GSB for my trading, not a software programmer or
marketer. Releasing GSB turned out to be a great idea as the GSB community is directing it into a better product. A win for all.
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Thank you very much for the information! GSB really seems like the product I want after hours of research on the various builders, base on the
product itself, the support, and the community. I look forward to being part of it. Was just a joke about the Black Friday sale. I have no doubt
your product is worth the normal price :-) (However, Multicharts has a Black Friday deal going right now FYI, all!) I'm leaning towards
Multicharts.. Would everyone recommend that or hold out for NT compatibility?
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| Quote: Originally posted by CandyMachine | | Thank you very much for the information! GSB really seems like the product I want after hours of research on the various builders, base on the
product itself, the support, and the community. I look forward to being part of it. Was just a joke about the Black Friday sale. I have no doubt
your product is worth the normal price :-) (However, Multicharts has a Black Friday deal going right now FYI, all!) I'm leaning towards
Multicharts.. Would everyone recommend that or hold out for NT compatibility? |
NT on GSB is first of the ranks, but a long way off.
MC vs TS is like apple vs android. Strong opinions held by many people.
TS is simplier (esp the data feed) but mc can do some things TS cant. (esp data feed)
Maybe I can provide a free picture of free steak knives if you buy 
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| Quote: Originally posted by admin |
NT on GSB is first of the ranks, but a long way off.
MC vs TS is like apple vs android. Strong opinions held by many people.
TS is simplier (esp the data feed) but mc can do some things TS cant. (esp data feed)
Maybe I can provide a free picture of free steak knives if you buy
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Haha, if I make the kind of $$ that this product has the potential to generate, then I'll happily buy you a steak! ;-)
("Potential" being the key word. I'm not getting ahead of myself.)
I know that the GSB has a walk forward tester but I see that you also have an Enhanced Walk Forward Tester offering. Is there any difference between
the tester built into GSB and the standalone product? Thank you
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| Quote: Originally posted by CandyMachine | | Quote: Originally posted by admin |
NT on GSB is first of the ranks, but a long way off.
MC vs TS is like apple vs android. Strong opinions held by many people.
TS is simplier (esp the data feed) but mc can do some things TS cant. (esp data feed)
Maybe I can provide a free picture of free steak knives if you buy
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Haha, if I make the kind of $$ that this product has the potential to generate, then I'll happily buy you a steak! ;-)
("Potential" being the key word. I'm not getting ahead of myself.)
I know that the GSB has a walk forward tester but I see that you also have an Enhanced Walk Forward Tester offering. Is there any difference between
the tester built into GSB and the standalone product? Thank you |
ewfo is for gsb or non gsb code. It takes fair bit of human and cpu time.
gsb wf is for wf code and takes little cpu and human time. You can wf 100's of systems with click of a button. EWFo is much more powerful version of
ts wfo.exe
Steak well done
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Awesome, thank you!! Very quick responses. I'm looking forward to playing with my new toy (GSB) that I'm getting myself for Christmas. :-)
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Old thread but this question relates to it. Is it possible to take easy code that was written elsewhere and throw it into GSB to improve it?
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| Quote: Originally posted by CandyMachine | | Old thread but this question relates to it. Is it possible to take easy code that was written elsewhere and throw it into GSB to improve it?
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Sorry but a definite no, that will never change as its just too hard.
Only thing you can do use EWFO.
....but just thinking about it now. Some chance if you put the non GSB code as custom indicator - it could work.
Put the oscillator outputs / conditions in a file, and the buy and sell.
Very crude and not likely what you want. + likely code is too complex.
Not sure its worth doing, but that the best we can do.
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Ok, thank you. So much software I want to buy.... haha.
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Does the EWFO use price data at all? I couldn't find it in the documentation. I was hoping to find better entries and exits for an existing strategy
that uses daily bars. Was hoping to find a best intraday entry/exit strategy for the daily-bar-strategy if that makes sense. It makes swing trades,
but enhancing it with finding the best intraday entry and exit conditions would maximize profits rather than always buying and selling at the same
time of day. Not sure if EWFO would be able to help with this because I can't see anything about price data in the doc. Also, would be nice to pair
price data from other symbols to help with finding the best entry and exit, and some symbols have somewhat of a predictive value for other symbols.
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| Quote: Originally posted by CandyMachine | | Does the EWFO use price data at all? I couldn't find it in the documentation. I was hoping to find better entries and exits for an existing strategy
that uses daily bars. Was hoping to find a best intraday entry/exit strategy for the daily-bar-strategy if that makes sense. It makes swing trades,
but enhancing it with finding the best intraday entry and exit conditions would maximize profits rather than always buying and selling at the same
time of day. Not sure if EWFO would be able to help with this because I can't see anything about price data in the doc. Also, would be nice to pair
price data from other symbols to help with finding the best entry and exit, and some symbols have somewhat of a predictive value for other symbols.
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EWFO IS just a more powerful version of TS wfo.exe
https://trademaid.info/tools-ewfo.htm
Not easy to do what you ask.
Nothing wrong with what your trying but GSB is easier to use starting from scratch and letting GSB do the work -rather than you.
You can add other data streams to GSB to see what works. VIP for CL, but not so much for ES. Cash indices a good place to start.
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Thank you for the response. I had a feeling that it would be complicated to accomplish this with software. Most of what I've seen out there just
tinkers with position sizing, stop losses, take profit etc. and doesn't use price data. This one might be done the old fashioned way with
spreadsheets and formulas...
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