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Basic information connection GSB and Tstation
I have difficult to find basic information on how use GSB
1) If I want to import a trading system from GSB,after WF test, I had to go on Tradestation and paste it in TS Development Environment .
This is not enought I had to copy " all the ts scripts under file supplementary scripts" !
where I find it ? and where I had to copy it (also in TS D.E.)?
2) custom indicator
I had import in a new strategy of tradestation the file generated with GSB
but also here lacks some GSB script ...where I find it ^
A curiosity but this new strategy in TS how knows what is the indicator that must copy ? the indicator I want to trasfer in GSB must be put (only that
indicator) in the graph of Tradestation
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If its long to write can you post a video with ALL passages
Thanks in Advance
Guido
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Quote: Originally posted by Guidob  | I have difficult to find basic information on how use GSB
1) If I want to import a trading system from GSB,after WF test, I had to go on Tradestation and paste it in TS Development Environment .
This is not enought I had to copy " all the ts scripts under file supplementary scripts" !
where I find it ? and where I had to copy it (also in TS D.E.)?
2) custom indicator
I had import in a new strategy of tradestation the file generated with GSB
but also here lacks some GSB script ...where I find it ^
A curiosity but this new strategy in TS how knows what is the indicator that must copy ? the indicator I want to trasfer in GSB must be put (only that
indicator) in the graph of Tradestation
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If its long to write can you post a video with ALL passages
Thanks in Advance
Guido
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Both these questions are related to not having loaded the GSB TS code.
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Thanks
now GSB's trading systems works in TSt
but Custom Indicator doesn't
If I verify in TSt the stategy "of my custom indicator 2MACD" give as error unknown identifier
What I haven't imported or connected ??
  
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| Quote: Originally posted by Guidob | Thanks
now GSB's trading systems works in TSt
but Custom Indicator doesn't
If I verify in TSt the stategy "of my custom indicator 2MACD" give as error unknown identifier
What I haven't imported or connected ??
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I assume you have not made a function in ts called 2macd.
If your TS skills are very low, you might be better to stick with the 36 GSB existing functions.
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I don't understand your system because I don't find easily the information.
I haven't built in TSt a function called 2Macd....I have built in TSt a strategy that use this indicator, and an indicator that have the same
parameters of strategy.
I had to transform this indicator in a function or I had to post it to you.?
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Surely my indicator is nothing of expecial but is a way to understand the passages that are necessary to import indicators o filters in your program
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Guidob:
You're right; the nomenclature GSB uses is wrong. I was confused by this same issue a while ago.
What GSB allows you to create is a custom Function, not a "Custom Indicator". An indicator draws something on a chart. A function returns a value
which GSB can attempt to include in its generation process; that is what you are after. It can be even more confusing when one realizes that
sometimes there exists an Indicator and Function with similar names.
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Thanks Gregorian now that I defined function in TSt the GSB see it and works
the particularity is that I had to create both for StandAlone and Manager
Probably I must use only Manager (+Worker)
Is the second time that I receive the response that my "skills on TS are very low" ... probably but two problems I had are given to lacking of
explication and to wrong use of nomencalture!!
I would know if I wiil receive constructive response in future expecially when I have bought the System ?
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| Quote: Originally posted by Guidob | Thanks Gregorian now that I defined function in TSt the GSB see it and works
the particularity is that I had to create both for StandAlone and Manager
Probably I must use only Manager (+Worker)
Is the second time that I receive the response that my "skills on TS are very low" ... probably but two problems I had are given to lacking of
explication and to wrong use of nomencalture!!
I would know if I wiil receive constructive response in future expecially when I have bought the System ?
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I may have miss-interpreted the issue of indicator vs function.
This is the first time its come to my attention and it would be an easy change to call it custom functions, instead of custom indicators. Apologies
for confusion, and this change can be made if you want.
I'm still unclear why there were issues loading the supplementary scripts. Quite a number of users have the issue of not realizing they need to be
loaded, but I hadnt yet found other users who wern't fixed by telling them go to supplementary scrips and load them. Perhaps I need to show this being
done in one of the quick start videos. I think its in the doc's, but should double check this.
Documentation is going to get a good boost in 2018, esp as other parties will be doing TS/MC+GSB courses, and I will be able to use some of their GSB
docs, + improvements to my own docs.
There is little point using 1 manager & 1 worker.
You use the manager if you have 2 or more workers, over 1 or more pc's. Otherwise use the standalone.
You get support before and after you buy GSB, as the forum will show. The support has been at a lower level than normal the last 2 weeks as Ive been
in Vanuatu with fairly woeful internet connection on a laptop. It drops productivity to about 10% of normal. Happy to say im back home in 24 hours.
The GSB business model also forces me to give updates and ongoing support as there is a roughly 10% to 15% optional maintenance fee after the first
year. If I don't give value, no one would pay it.
Hopefully service levels will be to your satisfaction now.
Peter
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Hows this for a concept to make it more obvious when a user hasnt loaded GSB code, or has a too old version. Relevant in that all users will need to
update GSB functions with the next beta. Reason is there are improvements to centering code. Backward compatibility will still be ok.
// MaxBarsBack check and check to see if the required TS/MC GSB functions are loaded
Once begin
condtion1=gsb_TS-MC_codeversion20171228;//If this line does not compile, you need to load ts./mc code from
C:\dropbox\GSB\GSB (Managers)\TradeStation Code\GSB_ALL_20171228_INC_GSBSYS1ESNQ_AMENDED
// MaxBarsBack check
IF (MaxBarsBack <> 500)Begin
RaiseRunTimeError("MaxBarsBack (Maximum number of bars strategy will reference) must be set to 500 (from Properties for All button, General
tab)");End;end;
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Guidob said,
"If its long to write can you post a video with ALL passages"
Calling for:
Every step (ALL 'passages' = 'steps') in a video on setting up a custom indicator in GSB - process involving Trade Station in the case - and getting
it into GSB, seeing it, and using it. All steps, however small.
I would be too.
Like what...you just paste the generated script into a (any named new?) strategy in TS and it starts loading it into the GSB on its own? I read the
short documentation (from here: http://www.trademaid.info/forum/viewthread.php?tid=28); steps missing I couldn't fill in right away, and nothing ever did appear in the GSB.
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here is a quick rundown
open customs indicators select markets u want and indicator you want with parameters
hit generate
in tradestation create new strategy that is blank
ctrl-a ctrl-c generated gsb code
paste into tradestation strategy
compile strategy
apply strategy to a chart with all data streams set max bars to 500
wait until it completes
go into gsb select exact data strerams used
goto load export scripts
run gsb
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I have updated the docs a little. http://www.trademaid.info/forum/viewthread.php?tid=17#pid184
Thanks Curt for your summary
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Continuing:
"...steps missing I couldn't fill in right away, and nothing ever did appear in the GSB."....
Ok, an extreme dimwit-as-to-anything-to-do-with programming (but who has 15 years at least with usually more of the early Trade Station code),
wonders:
"Is he suggesting I can take any Trade Station indicator and run the GSB with it the same as his "canned," default indicators? (Let's get one at all
up and running, then wonder if we can put in 36 of our own like his default number of indic's.)
If so, come the questions:
1. Not just indicators, but ShowMe's, PaintBar's, maybe even Strategies in Trade Station, as they are, can run in the GSB?
2. The first dialogue upon clicking "Generate Export Script":
Under "Data" can I leave Primary and Secondary blank?
3. Same dialogue in 2 under Function/Name - have to give it the EXACT same name as my chosen TS indicator? Including spaces, caps, underscores? (These
are the kinds of things I thnk of immediately - nowhere in sight on answers  )
4. Under parameters when I add, this is all about going down the list of maybe every single input in the TS indicator and placing them as either
static (fixed or dynamic)?
4a. Sequel to 4: you have to include EVERY input in your want-to TS indicator - only the inputs you want to optimize? All? You HAVE to include all
static (fixed) inputs?
5. You have to then go down the list, (add your to-be optimized inputs in the GSB), from top to bottom exactly as the inputs are in the TS strategy?
...Because I'm not seeing in the set-parameters (GSB) dialogue box one can use the exact TS input name anywhere - iow's, you might get very confused
with a lot of inputs you're setting parameters for if you can't see their names.(?)
6. After I fill in my parameters (which I think I can do as I optimized a lot in TS), I then hit
"Generate," and I do sure enough see something. I copy this script to a new TS STRATEGY, then put it in a, say a 30 min chart and compile. Nothing,
and I mean nothing ever happened after this tho I waited long, then looked for anything under Custom Indicators and the manila "Indicators Data" in
DropBox, also everywhere I could think to in Managers and Workers.
7. You maybe have to paste something additional into the Generated Script when you paste it into the chart for the export to GSB? My generated script
looked awfully simp; nowhere near anything like the MACD onboard sample script you can view after the dialogue comes up and you hit hit "Generate
Export Script" for this MACD.
More and more questions to be sure...a video, showing the detail of EVERY box fill-in, every step in taking a
want-to-do-this-one indicator out of Traded Station, filling in every detail, getting it up and running in the GSB - this.
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| Quote: Originally posted by parrdo101 | Continuing:
"...steps missing I couldn't fill in right away, and nothing ever did appear in the GSB."....
Ok, an extreme dimwit-as-to-anything-to-do-with programming (but who has 15 years at least with usually more of the early Trade Station code),
wonders:
"Is he suggesting I can take any Trade Station indicator and run the GSB with it the same as his "canned," default indicators? (Let's get one at all
up and running, then wonder if we can put in 36 of our own like his default number of indic's.)
YES YOU CAN, BUT IT WILL BE VERY RAM HUNGRY
RIGHT NOW IM TESTING 23 OF CURT999(GSB USER NAME) ON 15 MIN CL, AND ITS USING 14 GB PER GSB. 30 MIN WILL USE LESS, BUT THATS WITH ONLY 1 DATA STREAM.
If so, come the questions:
1. Not just indicators, but ShowMe's, PaintBar's, maybe even Strategies in Trade Station, as they are, can run in the GSB?
MY REPLIES IN CAPS.
NO, WE USE THE WORK INDICATOR, BUT TECHNICALLY ITS FUNCTIONS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. ANY SHOWME ETC TYPICALLY HAS A FUNCTION, SO YOU NEED TO CONVERT TO
FUNCTIONS.
2. The first dialogue upon clicking "Generate Export Script":
Under "Data" can I leave Primary and Secondary blank?
NO
3. Same dialogue in 2 under Function/Name - have to give it the EXACT same name as my chosen TS indicator? Including spaces, caps, underscores? (These
are the kinds of things I thnk of immediately - nowhere in sight on answers )
YES, NAME MUST BE EXACT.
4. Under parameters when I add, this is all about going down the list of maybe every single input in the TS indicator and placing them as either
static (fixed or dynamic)?
YES
4a. Sequel to 4: you have to include EVERY input in your want-to TS indicator - only the inputs you want to optimize? All? You HAVE to include all
static (fixed) inputs?
YES
5. You have to then go down the list, (add your to-be optimized inputs in the GSB), from top to bottom exactly as the inputs are in the TS strategy?
...Because I'm not seeing in the set-parameters (GSB) dialogue box one can use the exact TS input name anywhere - iow's, you might get very confused
with a lot of inputs you're setting parameters for if you can't see their names.(?)
IM NOT CLEAR ON THIS
6. After I fill in my parameters (which I think I can do as I optimized a lot in TS), I then hit
"Generate," and I do sure enough see something. I copy this script to a new TS STRATEGY, then put it in a, say a 30 min chart and compile. Nothing,
and I mean nothing ever happened after this tho I waited long, then looked for anything under Custom Indicators and the manila "Indicators Data" in
DropBox, also everywhere I could think to in Managers and Workers.
THE PATH IS IN THE TS CODE. LOOK THERE. YOU NEED TO ADD THE STRATEGY GSB GENERATED ON THE CHART WITH 500 MAXBARSBACK PERIOD
7. You maybe have to paste something additional into the Generated Script when you paste it into the chart for the export to GSB? My generated script
looked awfully simp; nowhere near anything like the MACD onboard sample script you can view after the dialogue comes up and you hit hit "Generate
Export Script" for this MACD.
PASTE YOUR SCRIPT ON THE FORUM IF YOU ARE STILL STUCK
More and more questions to be sure...a video, showing the detail of EVERY box fill-in, every step in taking a
want-to-do-this-one indicator out of Traded Station, filling in every detail, getting it up and running in the GSB - this.
I UPDATED THE DOC'S. IN TIME THERE WILL BE GSB COURSES BY THIRD PARTY'S THAT WILL BE DESIGNED FOR PEOPLE WITH LOW KNOWLEDGE OF ALL ASPECTS OF TRADING.
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"""
5. You have to then go down the list, (add your to-be optimized inputs in the GSB), from top to bottom exactly as the inputs are in the TS strategy?
...Because I'm not seeing in the set-parameters (GSB) dialogue box one can use the exact TS input name anywhere - iow's, you might get very confused
with a lot of inputs you're setting parameters for if you can't see their names.(?)
IM NOT CLEAR ON THIS
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Basically, why are not the input names (of the TS indicator one is making into a GSB custom indicator)... names of the inputs asked, forced or allowed
to be entered somewhere in and about the GSB parameter-setting that one does? Lots of inputs in the chosen indicator - and you get lost easily as to
which parameter you're setting next.
So, one can assemble an army of indicators right out of TS into the "Custom Indicators" area? 37 (0-36) indicators e.g. like your default indicators
currently? Will the "Force-all" and all the other options one sees in your default indicators be available the same for these custom's? And, all these
custom indicators will churn together for the best optimized outcome like your default indicators?
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4a. Sequel to 4: you have to include EVERY input in your want-to TS indicator - only the inputs you want to optimize? All? You HAVE to
include all static (fixed) inputs?
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One yes cannot "mathematically" be in both places simultaneously on the italics above, if the inputs I WANT to optimize differ from the number of all
the inputs (and they could, couldn't they?). I'm guessing you meant all - period - always - no can picky and choose - please confirm.
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"Basically, why are not the input names (of the TS indicator one is making into a GSB custom indicator)... names of the inputs asked, forced or
allowed to be entered somewhere in and about the GSB parameter-setting that one does? Lots of inputs in the chosen indicator - and you get lost easily
as to which parameter you're setting next."
can you show me a picture about what you mean? The GSB inputs are pretty easy to spot.
They are also visible under the parameters tab.
This may not have answered your question as well as you like. I'm not clear on how to grasp the issue.
So, one can assemble an army of indicators right out of TS into the "Custom Indicators" area? 37 (0-36) indicators e.g. like your default
indicators currently? Will the "Force-all" and all the other options one sees in your default indicators be available the same for these custom's?
And, all these custom indicators will churn together for the best optimized outcome like your default indicators? You dont want force all. Force
will say GSB must use it. So you wouldnt normally force more indicators than the default 3 (or up to 5) However you can use force on custom indicators
If your indicators are any good, gsb will use it given enough processing time. I dont see the point of disabling any of the existing GSB indicators,
unless you just want to make more bias to use your own indicators as a test.
You need to included all inputs of a custom indicator, even if you dont want it optimized.
This is more for ts than GSB, as ts code wont compile and give outputs for gsb.
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