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GSB 30.3 is very RAM hungry during WFO .
Ram demand is continuously rising up until Windows shuts down GSB.
32 GB RAM is installed

I think this is still a problem.
Single thread will help.
Ram hunger in building systems fixed in 30.7 but not wfo.
You can build systems in 30.7, save them and wf them in 29.7 if you need to.

admin - 20-7-2017 at 10:33 PM

GSB 30.3 is very RAM hungry during WFO .
Ram demand is continuously rising up until Windows shuts down GSB.
32 GB RAM is installed

This is now fixed in 30.9
Intraday drawdown caused the ram issue.
Intra day dd will be fixed soon

admin - 20-7-2017 at 10:34 PM

stop loss not working. Fixed in 30.9

Exception error in 31.0

Gregorian - 22-7-2017 at 09:18 AM

Tried several times to install 31.0. Upon startup, it always gives an Exception error and stops working. Downgrading to 30.9 works fine.

Gregorian - 22-7-2017 at 01:09 PM

Solved my own problem. 31.0 works if I copy the release over to a fresh folder. The problem only occurred if I copied it over a previous release. Which is strange, but...if it's fixed, it doesn't matter.

EOD exit not working

Gregorian - 22-7-2017 at 05:24 PM

In 31.0, whether you specify Market on Day Close and/or set a specific time of day exit, trades still remain open across an end-of-day.

admin - 23-7-2017 at 05:01 PM

Go to tools and contract list. Session close time. Set this to your moc time. How moc works has been changed to fix issues in overnight systems.

Gregorian - 23-7-2017 at 05:51 PM

I did have Session Close Time set to 16:00:00, but it had no effect.

admin - 23-7-2017 at 06:45 PM

youve got moc at 16:06 on the left side, not 16:00

Gregorian - 23-7-2017 at 07:17 PM

You were asking about Session Close time in the Contracts List, so that's what I responded concerning. See attached image. It's set to 16:00:00. The Times of Day close under the Exits settings is set to 16:06:00. But despite both of those parameters set, as the earlier image shows, GSB did not close trades at either of those times, but instead carried them into the next day.

admin - 23-7-2017 at 07:22 PM

can you set this to 16:00:00 and tell me how that goes?

Gregorian - 23-7-2017 at 07:39 PM

Yes - that made it work. So apparently GSB requires the Times of Day exit to be on a bar boundary time. Not sure what the purpose of Session Close Time on the Contracts List is, however.

Also would be nice if the Times of Day exit time were made a parameter that TS/MC could optimize, rather than a hard-coded number in the EL code.

admin - 24-7-2017 at 01:08 AM

Great you are running.
My experience has always been that moc is best at the close of session. So I dont want to give GSB uses options that are not actually going to be helpful.
The expression is give a person too much rope and they will hang themselves. If it can be proved I am wrong, always happy to re-consider.
Same thing applies to day of week options. Andrea Unger and TSL have exactly the same perspective on this, and Builder does not. That says a lot to me.

boosted - 30-7-2017 at 05:18 PM

Using Beta 32.2, I opened Custom Indicator window and placed a custom indicator, clicked Generate button and have TS Script ready to copy and paste.

Problem: I can highlight the whole script but unable to copy. There is no window that pops up and allows for any copy, paste or other option for that matter.

Is this a bug or something else wrong?

boosted - 30-7-2017 at 05:21 PM

Using Beta 32.2, I opened Custom Indicator window and placed a custom indicator, clicked Generate button and have TS Script ready to copy and paste.

Problem: I can highlight the whole script but unable to copy. There is no window that pops up and allows for any copy, paste or other option for that matter.

Is this a bug or something else wrong?

Sorry, it is not bug. I had to CTRL+C to copy. Might be a good idea to add right click option here since this is not intuitive.

admin - 30-7-2017 at 05:28 PM

There is no copy button on the main ts scripts, and I have never had any comments complaining about it. Its not hard to add it though so can be done.

boosted - 30-7-2017 at 05:33 PM

Its not a problem but when using most any Windows application the right click copy/paste is usually an option, I just assumed that was the case here too.

Thank you.

Exception error when opening 35.2; Too old error

Gregorian - 12-8-2017 at 03:12 PM

When 35.2 starts up, it generates an error window saying "System.AggregateException: One or more errors occurred. ---> System.IO.IOException: Cannot create a file when that file already exists."

Also, old problem, every once in a while then GSB tries to start up, there is a delay of several seconds, then an error pops saying the version of GSB is too old, and it opens up your web site.

Carl - 16-8-2017 at 03:28 AM

Version 36.5

Error message after trying to start a walk forward.
The same error message for all four different WF possibilities.

System.InvalidOperationException: Sequence contains no elements
at System.Linq.Enumerable.Min(IEnumerable`1 source)
at GSB.Strategies.GsbStrategy.get_WalkForwardParameters()
at GSB.WalkForwards.WalkForward.Run()
at GSB.UI.Forms.MainForm.RunWalkForward(OptimizationSettings os, PerformanceSummary performanceSummary, String parametersText, WalkForwardType walkForwardType)

admin - 16-8-2017 at 05:32 AM

When 35.2 starts up, it generates an error window saying "System.AggregateException: One or more errors occurred. ---> System.IO.IOException: Cannot create a file when that file already exists."

Also, old problem, every once in a while then GSB tries to start up, there is a delay of several seconds, then an error pops saying the version of GSB is too old, and it opens up your web site.

Sorry I missed this post. Is it still happening? You might just want to try beta 36.5
Later note. wf is busted in 36.5. I will get that fixed asap. Is this still an issue?

admin - 16-8-2017 at 05:36 AM

Version 36.5

Error message after trying to start a walk forward.
The same error message for all four different WF possibilities.

System.InvalidOperationException: Sequence contains no elements
at System.Linq.Enumerable.Min(IEnumerable`1 source)
at GSB.Strategies.GsbStrategy.get_WalkForwardParameters()
at GSB.WalkForwards.WalkForward.Run()
at GSB.UI.Forms.MainForm.RunWalkForward(OptimizationSettings os, PerformanceSummary performanceSummary, String parametersText, WalkForwardType walkForwardType)

I get this too. Will get fixed asap.

Gregorian - 16-8-2017 at 12:28 PM

Sorry I missed this post. Is it still happening? You might just want to try beta 36.5

Yes, the first error still pops up when 36.5 starts up. It doesn't seem to affect the operation of GSB; just a small annoyance. I have not seen the "too old" error yet, however.

admin - 16-8-2017 at 04:09 PM

Im not getting that issue on 36.5, so it must be related to something thats unqiue on your GSB folder.
Perhaps next build just make a new folder and copy the data files, then restart GSB, then the app settings, then restart GSB, the optimizer settings folder and restart GSB
Tracing down to the folder concerned will help.

moveo - 21-8-2017 at 12:08 PM

when 36.12 starts, an error pops up,
also when pushing the start button an other error pops up

Gregorian - 21-8-2017 at 01:00 PM

when 36.12 starts, an error pops up,
also when pushing the start button an other error pops up

You need to click on Tools, App Settings, Data, and change the default folders to your current GSB location.

moveo - 21-8-2017 at 02:23 PM

Thank you Gregorian, your tip works

cyrus68 - 30-8-2017 at 05:26 AM

That was a helpful tip. Saved me from trying to dig it up from the documentation that is frankly woeful.

The other issue has to do with the nature of the instruments and time frames that GSB can handle, as well as the required format. In software such as Builder, it is crystal clear. In GSB, it is thoroughly obscure.

Can GSB handle only futures contracts?
Only intraday or daily data also?
Does the name of the file have to be written in a specific way only, in order that GSB will read it? Why?

Can GSB handle stock data? Intraday or daily? I tried an experiment with daily stock data and GSB was totally blind. Somewhere I read that one must put in 390 in the name of the file because there are 390 minutes in a daily bar. So I called it e.g. SPY.390.txt. It didn't work.

What about forex data? Is that another blind spot?

These are all simple issues that should be clear as daylight, so the user of the software knows its limitations and can concentrate on far more important things.

admin - 30-8-2017 at 06:08 AM

GSB handles futures, stock and forex.
Daily must be done in this way, if we have 405 minutes in a day.
Whats in blue is optional.

ES.405.Minutes.830.1500.CentralUSATime.txt
All of this is in the documentation. I'm off to sleep now but will give more detailed reply tomorrow

docs are here
http://www.trademaid.info/forum/viewthread.php?tid=17

admin - 30-8-2017 at 08:34 PM

That was a helpful tip. Saved me from trying to dig it up from the documentation that is frankly woeful.

The other issue has to do with the nature of the instruments and time frames that GSB can handle, as well as the required format. In software such as Builder, it is crystal clear. In GSB, it is thoroughly obscure.

Can GSB handle only futures contracts?
Only intraday or daily data also?
Does the name of the file have to be written in a specific way only, in order that GSB will read it? Why?

Can GSB handle stock data? Intraday or daily? I tried an experiment with daily stock data and GSB was totally blind. Somewhere I read that one must put in 390 in the name of the file because there are 390 minutes in a daily bar. So I called it e.g. SPY.390.txt. It didn't work.

What about forex data? Is that another blind spot?

These are all simple issues that should be clear as daylight, so the user of the software knows its limitations and can concentrate on far more important things.

GSB is a rapidly advancing piece of software, and the docs were about 3 weeks out of date. Most of what you ask is in GSB quick start august 31 version.
http://www.trademaid.info/forum/viewthread.php?tid=17#pid184
There have been recent changes to the format of GSB price file names to support seconds data, tick & range data.
Builder has excellent documentation, but its a mature product that improves very slowly. GSB often gets multiple improvements in a week.
GSB kills builder in speed, and the quality of systems.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np87RA9H7c0
Now with client server version, im getting 60,000 systems a minute over 4 pcs. (that's about 10 * faster than what GSB was a few weeks ago)

I could choose to release new versions till the documentation is updated, or I can release things hot of the press with documentation lagging by a few weeks.
My compromise is to have the release version, and beta version for the users who are crying out for new features.
I know documentation is important. I spent a weeks work on another system builder that could have been just a day if the docs were better. Very frustrating.
Those who have been with GSB since the begging, will appreciate how much its developed.
Stock data is fine to use for data1 or secondary data. SPY should work fine on GSB from a intraday perspective, but upro and other similar eft should work better.
I have not spent much time on it, but doubt daily bars for data1 will work.
They are fine for data2.
One of the problems with daily bars is there are 1/13 the bars of 30 minutes bars. (830 to 1500). This means the statistics are much weaker. (1/13 the amount of trades) and the back test termination (under app settings) may have to be reduce or turned off. The logic of backtest termination is that if there are very few trades, the system is of no interest to us as the sample size is too low.
Hope this helps, and sorry for your frustration. Its great you post questions on the forum & hope todays updated docs help.

cyrus68 - 31-8-2017 at 02:40 AM

@admin. There are a couple of issues related to your post.
First you raise the question of whether it is wise to use daily data in system-building software, because the length of the data (let's say 3000 daily bars) is too short to build viable systems. My answer is that the proof of the pudding is in the eating of it. Yes, I have been able to create viable systems using such software. But like any other system, one should monitor its performance for degradation.

The second question is whether it would be wise to try this in GSB, given its settings and makeup. This may very well be true, but I haven't been able to try it out.

The third question is whether it is actually feasible to use daily bars in GSB if one gets around the data length issue. Let's say one has created txt files on daily bars for data1, data2 and data3 of good length and consistent with each other. I presume GSB needs the particular format you give (ES.405.Minutes.830.1500.CentralUSATime.txt) to identify the data-set as involving daily bars, and the computer/TS being on CT time?

If you are using the exchange time for ES, then 405 minutes is correct but the time should be 8.30.1515. Using 8:30 to 15:00 either assumes that one has a custom session set up in TS, or that one has a stock symbol, such as SPY, for which the exchange closes at 15:00.

I've renamed my experimental stock data. I will add them to the contracts list and test it.

admin - 31-8-2017 at 03:17 AM

Daily bar systems can be made in system builders, but Ive spent no time on this myself. I suspect long only enter on a limit would be the way to go.
GSB doesnt yet support limit entry. A few months away I hope.

405 minute bars just are the same as daily bars in effect. As it works and users are asking for more pressing things, there was not great need to change this - though would be a good ideal to do so.
The time zone is just for us humans, not GSB.

I always use 1500 eod, not 1515. The last 15 minutes tends to be more noisy and other data streams often dont work after 1500.
You could under certain conditions use 1515 but I dont see the upside. moc exit is also problematic.

admin - 2-9-2017 at 12:03 AM

Non beta build code expired today. Very sorry. I will get this fixed hopefully Monday. Beta is ok but current beta doesnt have backward compatibility to release version and next weeks beta.

admin - 17-10-2017 at 01:18 AM

38.22 standalone and master dont always report number of systems etc on right GUI. Worker is fine. Problem is intermittent.
Some metrics you need to hit expand button on right side gui to see.
Looking to fix asap.

vip. 38.22 standalone settings have random seed as zero. (advanced mode on) This should not be zero but blank. Otherwise all systems generated will be the same every time you run GSB. Its for diagnostic / bench-marking reasons only
This is fixed in GSBSETUP38.22d.tri.exe
The exe etc is still the same build.
No need to install the new build, just change the setting.

curt999 - 20-10-2017 at 09:17 AM

the .eld included is it the latest one to import into tradestation? i noticed some errors when they compiled and tradestation 9.5 wouldnt load correctly

admin - 20-10-2017 at 03:31 PM

What errors, and what version of TS are you on? I'm only aware of one error in MC which is an easy fix.

curt999 - 21-10-2017 at 07:49 AM

it was on 9.5 i deleted the install can try to reproduce to post the errors

moveo - 31-10-2017 at 04:54 AM

With GSB 39.11 code does not compile in TS

admin - 31-10-2017 at 05:09 AM

Im on 40.02 (not released yet) and it compiled fine.
can you send me the code in notepad. Will look at tomorrow.
Add as attachment or email it.

admin - 31-10-2017 at 03:22 PM

With GSB 39.11 code does not compile in TS

This is fixed in 40.02. I will upload in <24 hours
You can change
Inputs:
i1Data(3)..

result = ((GSB_Norm2(StandardDev(Close, i1length, 1) of i1Data, 1, 100) of i1Data * i1Weight)
to
result = ((GSB_Norm2(StandardDev(Close, i1length, 1) of Data3, 1, 100) of Data3 * i1Weight)

admin - 1-11-2017 at 12:15 AM

Im on 40.02 (not released yet) and it compiled fine.
can you send me the code in notepad. Will look at tomorrow.
Add as attachment or email it.

FIXED IN 40.04

admin - 3-11-2017 at 05:32 PM

There is a bug that causes significant problems in WF. I have no idea what versions of GSB, but possibly all of them.
It only shows up when entrylevel defaults are changed from 0 to 100 to 0 to 1000.
Instead of optimizing around the range of entrylevel, it optimizes the entire range. This means wf results are not at all stable or that accurate.
The fix for now is keep entrylevel in the 0 to 100 range.

admin - 20-12-2017 at 04:55 PM

installer on 41.05b has an issue. It links to C:\dropbox\GSB\GSB (Managers)GSBStandalone.41.05b instead of C:\dropbox\GSB\GSB (Managers)\GSBStandalone.41.05
Just make a new short cut link to your desktop.
I mistook this for a virus checker issue. I would fix but im expecting a new build shortly.

Errors from EWFO

Petzy - 5-1-2018 at 10:24 AM

Im getting errors when I open WFO folders from both TS and MC

I attached the screen shoot.

(I'm running a trial. ewfo_20180103.exe)

Regards,
Peter

Attachment: Login to view the details

admin - 5-1-2018 at 03:15 PM

Im getting errors when I open WFO folders from both TS and MC

I attached the screen shoot.

(I'm running a trial. ewfo_20180103.exe)

Regards,
Peter

just checking
so you have
inputs:x(0),y()......;
or
inputs x(0);
inputs(y);//two separate lines.
do all your wf fail or some? You could have a corrupt files. Thats what the error message is saying. Can you retry them again?
If it fails again, send me your files zip or better still .7z via dropbox, google drive, ftp etc

Petzy - 5-1-2018 at 03:33 PM

I will make a new try tomorrow, just went to bed.

I have input x(0),
,
,
One on every row but with â€œ,â€ not with â€œ;â€

All of them failed. Both mc and ts.

I made them very short to save time. Is there a minimum wfo for it to work?

admin - 5-1-2018 at 03:37 PM

I will make a new try tomorrow, just went to bed.

I have input x(0),
,
,
One on every row but with â€œ,â€ not with â€œ;â€

All of them failed. Both mc and ts.

I made them very short to save time. Is there a minimum wfo for it to work?

Your inputs are fine but the error message says trade list is corupt
for testing, any small wfo is fine

Wrong scale in Portfolio Analyst "Daily Net Profit & Drawdown"?

Petzy - 9-1-2018 at 02:16 AM

Just wondering if the scale on the graph "Daily Net Profit & Drawdown" is wrong in Portfolio Analyst?

The performance report says the Max DD is $-16803 but it looks on the graph that it is about $-100000

I attached the performance report from TS and the report from Portoflio Analyst

Regards,
Peter

Attachment: Login to view the details

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admin - 9-1-2018 at 02:29 AM

Just wondering if the scale on the graph "Daily Net Profit & Drawdown" is wrong in Portfolio Analyst?

The performance report says the Max DD is $-16803 but it looks on the graph that it is about $-100000

I attached the performance report from TS and the report from Portoflio Analyst

Regards,
Peter

what version are you on. build date?
can you show a screen shot?
You should be on 20171205.2 if your on pa pro

Petzy - 9-1-2018 at 04:10 AM

what version are you on. build date?
can you show a screen shot?
You should be on 20171205.2 if your on pa pro

I am on 20171205

admin - 9-1-2018 at 03:20 PM

simple issue. There are two scales on the graph for x axis. Look on the right side.
Reason for this is dd scale is so small compared to equity graph, it would be useless you have a finer axis on dd.

No trades

Petzy - 15-1-2018 at 08:17 AM

I made a new system for @PL in GSB 42.15. I 3 datastreams in the system. PL 15 min, 30 min and 60 min.

I copy the code to TradeStation and open a new chart with 3 symbols. (PL 15 min, 30 min and 60 min).

When I activate the strategy on the chart I don't get any trades.
I suspect there is something wrong with the i?data variables. Shouldn't the i1data=1, i2data=2 and i3data=3?
And what is i4data, i5data and iSFData?

Regards,
Peter

(I have attached the system to this post)

// Settings
// ID: 20180113-023126-676936-YQO7u
// Info: File Name Prefix: , Comment: , Workplace Instance ID: n4r3LQRcrCak3VsZe, Machine Name: PGDEV01
// Price Data: Data1: PL.15.Minute.0000.2300.CET.txt, Data2: PL.30.Minute.0000.2300.CET.txt, Data3: PL.60.Minute.0000.2300.CET.txt
// MaxBarsBack: 500
// Profits Mode: Currency
// Quantity: 1
// Quantity Mode: FixedShareContracts
// Exit Stop Loss: 0
// Exit Profit Target: 0
// Exit Minutes: 0
// Fitness Criteria: NetProfit * AvgTrade
// Fitness Commission: 0
// Reports Commission: 0
// Commission Mode: TradePerSide
// Fitness Slippage: 0
// Reports Slippage: 0
// Slippage Mode: TradePerSide
// Long Trading Allowed: True
// Short Trading Allowed: True
// Max. Entries per Day:
// GSB Version: 1.0.42.15 / 2018-01-05

// Performance (full period)
// Fitness: 29,708,024.76
// Net Profit: 269,180
// Commission (in $): 0
// Drawdown: -9,605
// Avg Trade: 110.36
// Percent Profitable: 55.92
// Pearson: 0.986
// Profit Factor: 1.56
// Trades Count: 2439
// Net Profit / -Drawdown: 28.02

// Inputs
Inputs:
i1Data(3),
i1shortLength(1),
i1longLength(8),
i2Data(2),
i2length(46),
i3Data(2),
i3length(103),
i4Data(2),
i4length(64),
i5Data(3),
i5cutoff(134),
i1Weight(-1),
i2Weight(1),
i3Weight(1),
i4Weight(1),
i5Weight(1),
entryParams(0),
iSFData(2),
iSFlength(18),
iSFnumAtrs(1.5),
iSFWeight(1),
sfEntryLevel(49),
beginDate(20070226),
endDate(21001231) // Replace by 20180109 to test GSB/TS/MC match;

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Carl - 15-1-2018 at 08:58 AM

Hi Petzy,

GSB 42.15 output doesn't compile in tradestation:
endDate(21001231) // Replace by 20180109 to test GSB/TS/Output MC match;

because ; is missing

This code should work:
endDate(21001231); // Replace by 20180109 to test GSB/TS/MC match

Peter knows about this bug.

Petzy - 15-1-2018 at 09:02 AM

Hi Petzy,

GSB 42.15 output doesn't compile in tradestation:
endDate(21001231) // Replace by 20180109 to test GSB/TS/Output MC match;

because ; is missing

This code should work:
endDate(21001231); // Replace by 20180109 to test GSB/TS/MC match

Peter knows about this bug.

Yes I know. I pasted the original code exactly as it was in GSB.
But when I imported it into TradeStation I added the ";".

The problem I have is that the code compiles fine, after I added the ";". But it doesn't generate any trades.

Regards,
Peter

Gregorian - 15-1-2018 at 10:12 AM

Petzy:

This is a longstanding bug in GSB which Peter knows about. Certain strategies produce no trades at all in TS or MC.

Petzy - 15-1-2018 at 11:02 AM

Petzy:

This is a longstanding bug in GSB which Peter knows about. Certain strategies produce no trades at all in TS or MC.

Aha. I spent a few hours trying to figure it out. But good to know so I don't waste any more

Is there any way to fix it manually? I rather liked some of the strategies that isn't producing any trades.

Regards,
Peter

Carl - 15-1-2018 at 11:06 AM

I sometimes have the same issue.
Don't know if it is a GSB issue or a Tradestation issue.
Most of the time, I could solve the problem by constructing a new workspace and adding the strategy again.
Hope this helps.

Petzy - 15-1-2018 at 01:28 PM

I sometimes have the same issue.
Don't know if it is a GSB issue or a Tradestation issue.
Most of the time, I could solve the problem by constructing a new workspace and adding the strategy again.
Hope this helps.

Just an update...

I changed the Range for my chart from "Start from 2007-01-01" to "10 years back".
Then one of the strategies started to work. I will try the others later.

Petzy - 16-1-2018 at 07:22 AM

Just an update...

I changed the Range for my chart from "Start from 2007-01-01" to "10 years back".
Then one of the strategies started to work. I will try the others later.

All the strategies started to work when I changed the range in TradeStation. So, this is solved for me

Script change ID when double click on the strategy

Petzy - 29-1-2018 at 05:15 AM

It looks like the ID is chaning on the finished strategy when I double click on it.

1. I run a walk-forward on a strategy

2. When it is done I open the tab "Tradestation Script", Plattform "TradeStation". Tab "Walk-Forward"

3. The ID on the script is:
// Settings
// ID: 20180129-054500-459081-qvuSp / 20180129-115930-191348-QzoGX

4. I double click on the strategy down where the list of strategies is and then look at the ID again:
// Settings
// ID: 20180129-054500-459081-qvuSp / 20180129-121124-657193-ySwpo

I don't think the actual script changes but it is a bit confusing when I save the strategy and the ID changes.
I usually save the strategy with the Walk-Forward ID. In the above example it would be "20180129-115930-191348-QzoGX". If I try to find the strategy later it will have another ID.

Regards,
Peter Gunnarsson

admin - 22-2-2018 at 04:30 PM

support upload email doesnt work, gmail blocked it for some reason.
Will be fixed in next build. If you do support upload, you will have to email me too on older builds

44.21 Manager not displaying strategies

Gregorian - 3-4-2018 at 10:14 AM

An old bug is back: In 44.21, the Manager is not displaying strategies generated by the Workers on the same machine. Once the Manager never even left the Waiting state, but more often it does show the statuses of the Workers properly, just with no strategies coming over.

EDIT: After 13 minutes, the Manager suddenly displayed the collected strategies. This used to take place within the first minute of operation, so while it's technically working now, the delay is too long.

kelsotrader - 3-4-2018 at 12:40 PM

An old bug is back: In 44.21, the Manager is not displaying strategies generated by the Workers on the same machine. Once the Manager never even left the Waiting state, but more often it does show the statuses of the Workers properly, just with no strategies coming over.

EDIT: After 13 minutes, the Manager suddenly displayed the collected strategies. This used to take place within the first minute of operation, so while it's technically working now, the delay is too long.

That's not the case on my Manager, Transfer is immediate.

admin - 3-4-2018 at 04:02 PM

Quote: Originally posted by kelsotrader

That's not the case on my Manager, Transfer is immediate.

I will keep an eye on this issue. Im testing 44.25 now.
In the last hour I did a disk upgrade on the server. Cloud and forum was down for 1/2 an hour and all workers on this serer were killed. Small outages of the sql server will go unnoticed but 1/2 an hour might cause managers to stop. Apologies but better than a o/s crash that's totally UN-planed.

cyrus68 - 10-5-2018 at 01:29 AM

I tried to run the manager - version 44.64 - and got error message.
It won't load, so it's back to 44.58 for me.

System.InvalidOperationException: Operation can only be performed on cells that belong to a DataGridView control.
at System.Windows.Forms.DataGridViewColumnHeaderCell.set_SortGlyphDirection(SortOrder value)
at System.Windows.Forms.DataGridView.DataGridViewDataConnection.ApplySortingInformationFromBackEnd()
at System.Windows.Forms.DataGridView.RefreshColumns()
at System.Windows.Forms.DataGridView.RefreshColumnsAndRows()
at System.Windows.Forms.DataGridView.OnDataSourceChanged(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.DataGridView.set_DataSource(Object value)
at SpV9nECqWoLyY6pzhkoaPOmgwF_c09gEu9WXNOKzM7vt.Ny1ZRzbZPxrih9nqLm2P_xg[](DataGridView , List`1 , Int32 , String )
at SpV9nECqWoLyY6pzhkoaPOmgwF_c09gEu9WXNOKzM7vt..ctor()

Workplace Mode: Manager
Instance ID: KIPiPROqMVjhei1Bs
Workplace ID:
App Version: 1.0.44.64 / 2018-05-08
Machine Name: MAIN3

admin - 10-5-2018 at 01:34 AM

I tried to run the manager - version 44.64 - and got error message.
It won't load, so it's back to 44.58 for me.

System.InvalidOperationException: Operation can only be performed on cells that belong to a DataGridView control.
at System.Windows.Forms.DataGridViewColumnHeaderCell.set_SortGlyphDirection(SortOrder value)
at System.Windows.Forms.DataGridView.DataGridViewDataConnection.ApplySortingInformationFromBackEnd()
at System.Windows.Forms.DataGridView.RefreshColumns()
at System.Windows.Forms.DataGridView.RefreshColumnsAndRows()
at System.Windows.Forms.DataGridView.OnDataSourceChanged(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.DataGridView.set_DataSource(Object value)
at SpV9nECqWoLyY6pzhkoaPOmgwF_c09gEu9WXNOKzM7vt.Ny1ZRzbZPxrih9nqLm2P_xg[](DataGridView , List`1 , Int32 , String )
at SpV9nECqWoLyY6pzhkoaPOmgwF_c09gEu9WXNOKzM7vt..ctor()

Workplace Mode: Manager
Instance ID: KIPiPROqMVjhei1Bs
Workplace ID:
App Version: 1.0.44.64 / 2018-05-08
Machine Name: MAIN3

This isnt a known issue in .64 build.
My guess is there is an issue in app settings else opt settings.
Can you load with no app / opt settings, or the original ones?
Worst case do a support upload.

cyrus68 - 10-5-2018 at 01:44 AM

First time I tried, it would not load at all and gave the error message.
I tried again, just now, and it loaded.
Very curious.
As they say, it is better, the second time around.

admin - 10-5-2018 at 01:46 AM

First time I tried, it would not load at all and gave the error message.
I tried again, just now, and it loaded.
Very curious.
As they say, it is better, the second time around.

Great you are resolved. I have used the build extensively and its been very good.

BigDog - 10-5-2018 at 08:45 AM

After a completely fresh system setup I have installed GSB 44.36 but it crashes every time with a CLR20r3 event (this applies to Manager, Worker and Standalone).

I have tested every installed version of Dot Net (2, 3 and 4), all of which passed without reporting any problems. I even tried installing Visual Studio 13, just in case there might be some missing Windows files. Nothing has worked so far.

Has any other user encountered this problem?

BD

admin - 10-5-2018 at 05:08 PM

After a completely fresh system setup I have installed GSB 44.36 but it crashes every time with a CLR20r3 event (this applies to Manager, Worker and Standalone).

I have tested every installed version of Dot Net (2, 3 and 4), all of which passed without reporting any problems. I even tried installing Visual Studio 13, just in case there might be some missing Windows files. Nothing has worked so far.

Has any other user encountered this problem?

BD

This is an OS issue, but I have forwarded onto programmer.
You could try system restore or repair.
Always a good idea to backup your OS with macrium reflect (free) or acronis true image

admin - 10-5-2018 at 06:11 PM

Programmer says
We use .net framework 4.6 (which is not same as .net 4 and 4.5).

Windows should have installed it already unless update is disabled/paused.
Best you repair / reinstall. No users have ever reported this crash

BigDog - 11-5-2018 at 01:10 AM

When I said I had verified all of the dot Net installations, I meant also versions 4, 4.5 and 4.5.1.

That no other user has so far reported a similar problem is not much comfort to me. Do you have any specific suggestions as to how to get the software to work?
Again, bear in mind that this is a new installation on a completely clean machine.

admin - 11-5-2018 at 01:15 AM

When I said I had verified all of the dot Net installations, I meant also versions 4, 4.5 and 4.5.1.

That no other user has so far reported a similar problem is not much comfort to me. Do you have any specific suggestions as to how to get the software to work?
Again, bear in mind that this is a new installation on a completely clean machine.

Sorry that's no comfort.
Make sure all the service packs are installed. Sometimes this takes some time to happen. Ive had some take a few days.
I assume it was working on the PC? what happened?

BigDog - 11-5-2018 at 01:48 AM

Sorry that's no comfort.
Make sure all the service packs are installed. Sometimes this takes some time to happen. Ive had some take a few days.
I assume it was working on the PC? what happened?

The problem seems to be an issuing with handling a missing method exception.

admin - 11-5-2018 at 03:01 AM

Sorry that's no comfort.
Make sure all the service packs are installed. Sometimes this takes some time to happen. Ive had some take a few days.
I assume it was working on the PC? what happened?

The problem seems to be an issuing with handling a missing method exception.

Do you have all the gsb files, or just the exe file?
I can do teamviewer but UN-unexpectedly traveling to new zealand tomorrow. Worse case this will have to wait till Monday.

curt999 - 11-5-2018 at 06:14 AM

you might have a ram module failing on that pc if you are getting intermittent failures could not be related to gsb..run some diagnostics

BigDog - 11-5-2018 at 06:23 AM

Quote: Originally posted by curt999

you might have a ram module failing on that pc if you are getting intermittent failures could not be related to gsb..run some diagnostics

I appreciate the suggestion.

Ran diagnostics - no issues reported.

This error message only occurs with GSB and is 100% reliable, not intermittent.

BigDog - 11-5-2018 at 11:15 AM

The error is caused by GSB handling of the Dot Net framework, in some way:

BigDog - 11-5-2018 at 11:17 AM

I ran a complete Windows system file check (having already validated) the Dot Net installations. No errors were found. So there appear to be no missing Windows files or system file corruption.

I uninstalled and reinstalled GSB several times to try to make sure it had installed all the files. I believe it did.

BigDog - 12-5-2018 at 12:59 AM

It turns out that the problem is caused by Dot Net 4.6 not being installed, which is required by GSB.

admin - 13-5-2018 at 04:21 PM

It turns out that the problem is caused by Dot Net 4.6 not being installed, which is required by GSB.

thanks for update

cyrus68 - 19-5-2018 at 12:01 AM

I am getting an error in 44.64. When I do WF on saved systems, this error appears for both worker and manager.

System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at SpV9nECqWoLyY6pzhkoaPOmgwF_c09gEu9WXNOKzM7vt.0GNAvD5J1sJZWSJ8mpPrG003d$Yp6wbNscrWuxg4KNUPbCtTIm0WKF15G9u1CqJwfOVeT2L3ZwiW38q4K6_VSv0.CmOm5KhaXxK7xOBSs L3BUpooM7fyhmDGqUhUvSqo8WdC(‫‏⁭‎⁮⁫‪‌‌‪⁮‏‬⁭‎⁪ 203;⁭‏⁮‍⁫‎‭⁯⁮‏‬‫‮⁫‌‫‎‌‮⁫‌ ;‏‮ )
at System.Linq.Enumerable.WhereSelectArrayIterator`2.MoveNext()
at SpV9nECqWoLyY6pzhkoaPOmgwF_c09gEu9WXNOKzM7vt.KZX3YbPM54ejvr0vMHIjtec(IEnumerable`1 , Dictionary`2 , String )
at SpV9nECqWoLyY6pzhkoaPOmgwF_c09gEu9WXNOKzM7vt.eTt7t94ebiNRdKBm10cDMzI(DataGridView , List`1& , Boolean )
at SpV9nECqWoLyY6pzhkoaPOmgwF_c09gEu9WXNOKzM7vt.GmjcK7OQOYeh0RyQZxjlJbq$_$YorGzm9ibZCSLFAkVh()

Workplace Mode: Manager
Instance ID: J5xawXIMS6yJIMdYK
Workplace ID: J5xawXIMS6yJIMdYK.20180518-015107-367851
App Version: 1.0.44.64 / 2018-05-08
Machine Name: MAIN3

The WFs are carried out, but this error pops up every second. I end up having to delete thousands of these in the Exceptions folder.
This didn't happen in previous versions.

admin - 19-5-2018 at 01:58 AM

I am getting an error in 44.64. When I do WF on saved systems, this error appears for both worker and manager.

System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at SpV9nECqWoLyY6pzhkoaPOmgwF_c09gEu9WXNOKzM7vt.0GNAvD5J1sJZWSJ8mpPrG003d$Yp6wbNscrWuxg4KNUPbCtTIm0WKF15G9u1CqJwfOVeT2L3ZwiW38q4K6_VSv0.CmOm5KhaXxK7xOBSs L3BUpooM7fyhmDGqUhUvSqo8WdC(‫‏⁭‎⁮⁫‪‌‌‪⁮‏‬⁭‎⁪ 203;⁭‏⁮‍⁫‎‭⁯⁮‏‬‫‮⁫‌‫‎‌‮⁫‌ ;‏‮ )
at System.Linq.Enumerable.WhereSelectArrayIterator`2.MoveNext()
at SpV9nECqWoLyY6pzhkoaPOmgwF_c09gEu9WXNOKzM7vt.KZX3YbPM54ejvr0vMHIjtec(IEnumerable`1 , Dictionary`2 , String )
at SpV9nECqWoLyY6pzhkoaPOmgwF_c09gEu9WXNOKzM7vt.eTt7t94ebiNRdKBm10cDMzI(DataGridView , List`1& , Boolean )
at SpV9nECqWoLyY6pzhkoaPOmgwF_c09gEu9WXNOKzM7vt.GmjcK7OQOYeh0RyQZxjlJbq$_$YorGzm9ibZCSLFAkVh()

Workplace Mode: Manager
Instance ID: J5xawXIMS6yJIMdYK
Workplace ID: J5xawXIMS6yJIMdYK.20180518-015107-367851
App Version: 1.0.44.64 / 2018-05-08
Machine Name: MAIN3

The WFs are carried out, but this error pops up every second. I end up having to delete thousands of these in the Exceptions folder.
This didn't happen in previous versions.

Can you confirm if non saved systems have the same issue?

zdenekt - 19-5-2018 at 05:49 AM

I have the same issue almost all the time.
It happens when I want delete systems with completed WFA which does not look good.
Sometimes it´s not possible to delete some system anyway. So I have to ignore it until the next GSB restart.

cyrus68 - 1-6-2018 at 07:04 AM

I'm not sure if this is a bug in version 77, or just a nuisance, but you may want to check all your workers before a run is completed.
The pic below shows a worker where the central panels are missing or distorted. Also , the right hand panel has missing or incorrect information.

It did, however, generate systems - though I don't know how many. The total reported in the manager is incorrect. So it's best to check all workers early and shut down defective ones. Unfortunately, I didn't check until the run was completed.

admin - 1-6-2018 at 03:36 PM

I'm not sure if this is a bug in version 77, or just a nuisance, but you may want to check all your workers before a run is completed.
The pic below shows a worker where the central panels are missing or distorted. Also , the right hand panel has missing or incorrect information.

It did, however, generate systems - though I don't know how many. The total reported in the manager is incorrect. So it's best to check all workers early and shut down defective ones. Unfortunately, I didn't check until the run was completed.

I havnt seen this before, and i have run a lot of workers, though I dont look at the workers a great deal. I will keep an eye on it. Is the issues repeatable. First thing I would try is reboot the PC

cyrus68 - 1-6-2018 at 09:01 PM

The more important issue is that the manager failed to correctly aggregate all the systems. It wasn't related to the defective worker. Excluding the defective worker, the aggregate was far less than the sum of systems produced by all the other workers.

This is a serious issue because it forces the user to repeat the analysis on a multitude of workers instead of the manager only. The bug was fixed many versions ago, but it seems to have reappeared. Now I'm wondering if running the 72 exe in the 77 directory will pose its own problems.

admin - 1-6-2018 at 09:34 PM

The more important issue is that the manager failed to correctly aggregate all the systems. It wasn't related to the defective worker. Excluding the defective worker, the aggregate was far less than the sum of systems produced by all the other workers.

This is a serious issue because it forces the user to repeat the analysis on a multitude of workers instead of the manager only. The bug was fixed many versions ago, but it seems to have reappeared. Now I'm wondering if running the 72 exe in the 77 directory will pose its own problems.

You shouldnt mix manager and worker versions is a good guide, but often there
is not significant differences that will cause issues.
Im not clear if you say you are running .77 manger with .72 worker
or just a standalone.72 with manager and worker being .77

Carl - 1-6-2018 at 11:40 PM

44.77 manager / 44.72 worker issue might be because installer file "GSBSETUP44.77c-betausers" contains:
manager 44.77
standalone 44.77
but not worker 44.77

admin - 2-6-2018 at 12:12 AM

44.77 manager / 44.72 worker issue might be because installer file "GSBSETUP44.77c-betausers" contains:
manager 44.77
standalone 44.77
but not worker 44.77

Worker is in the gsb/worker folders.
C:\GSB\GSB (Workers)
C:\GSB\GSB (Workers)2ContributeToGSBCloud1

Icons on the desktop.
Regardless the exe are all the same. The filename determines the function of the exe

cyrus68 - 3-6-2018 at 09:30 PM

I did not mix different different versions. I ran version 77 for both manager and worker. As I said, the manager failed to aggregate all the systems produced - by a big margin of about 1000. This is not difficult to verify. You just add up the systems produced by the workers and compare with the manager's total.

This is a serious issue. I don't want to repeat the same analysis on 15 workers. That is why I will revert to version 72 for BOTH manager and worker. My question was: whether the 72 exe files will be compatible with all the other files of the 77 installation. If not, how do I roll back?

admin - 3-6-2018 at 10:06 PM

I did not mix different different versions. I ran version 77 for both manager and worker. As I said, the manager failed to aggregate all the systems produced - by a big margin of about 1000. This is not difficult to verify. You just add up the systems produced by the workers and compare with the manager's total.

This is a serious issue. I don't want to repeat the same analysis on 15 workers. That is why I will revert to version 72 for BOTH manager and worker. My question was: whether the 72 exe files will be compatible with all the other files of the 77 installation. If not, how do I roll back?

I am waiting for programmer to get back to me if .72 and .77 work the same.
Can you zip up any exceptions in the last few days in the manager and worker folders and send them to me? For now best keep to manager and worker being the same version.
I am not aware of this issue, but havnt looked for it closely so could miss it. Its possibly a data base error, but I dont know enough yet. I can test on my local machines to try to replicate the issue.
To roll back, just run the exe version you want to be running.

boosted - 3-7-2018 at 07:43 PM

I am not sure if the bug I mentioned about before has been fixed or not in 47.10 but its either back
or still awaiting a fix in a new update.

The issue is as follows:

I am in a Standalone and sorting NP-F column and I have it sorted from neg. to positive. I started clicking on
some of the negative rows and they turn more negative and the positives that I click on turn to negative.

BUT, if you scroll down at least halfway down column and start clicking on positive NP-F numbers they stay same
as they should.

Like I said, not sure this got fixed or if the problem has now been inverted from what it was when I originally found it.

Anyways, just was sitting here and clicked in a few and noticed it.

admin - 4-7-2018 at 05:10 PM

I am not sure if the bug I mentioned about before has been fixed or not in 47.10 but its either back
or still awaiting a fix in a new update.

The issue is as follows:

I am in a Standalone and sorting NP-F column and I have it sorted from neg. to positive. I started clicking on
some of the negative rows and they turn more negative and the positives that I click on turn to negative.

BUT, if you scroll down at least halfway down column and start clicking on positive NP-F numbers they stay same
as they should.

Like I said, not sure this got fixed or if the problem has now been inverted from what it was when I originally found it.

Anyways, just was sitting here and clicked in a few and noticed it.

send me teamviwer details so I can see this.
also right click and try over ride original settings

emsjoflo - 6-7-2018 at 02:29 AM

I noticed the issue boosted mentioned also. And it seems to happen more with certain Custom Indicators. I'll get a bunch of systems with really great stats, but when I click on them, the graph changes and the statistics get worse.

I have another issue that popped up while using the Custom Indicator. I know Custom Indicators are a low priority for Peter and the development of GSB so I am not demanding that anything be done about my complaints. Just communicating.

Right now I have two custom indicators that I am evaluating so I only want systems built with these indicators as the primary. Changing the True/False toggle for "Force Use(in all systems) seems to do nothing so I disabled all the Built-in indicators (by toggling "Enabled" to false). I ran several batches of systems, exported the CSV data to Excel and analyzed it. Very cool feature, by the way. I discovered that most of the profitable systems were produced with only 10 or so of the Built-in Indicators as a secondary filter.

To speed up the process, I disabled SF on the built-in indicators that did not get used often ( So I can focus on the ones that do the best in combination with my Indicator). When i ran GSB restricted like this, about 1/4 of the systems produced had GSB_AverageFC as one or both of the primary indicators. Even though "Built-in Indicators" is 0(SF:14)/37 indicators.

emsjoflo - 6-7-2018 at 02:38 AM

boosted, I noticed that the problem seems to be much worse when I run several instances of GSB standalone on the same machine at the same time. And then if I change parameters and do another batch with different settings it gets worse. I have been in the middle of a WFA when the graph changed. It seems almost like GSB is overwriting systems with similar serial numbers.

It was getting so bad that I quit running simultaneous standalone GSB on the same machine. and if it starts getting irritating, I will restart GSB every time I want to run a new batch of systems.

emsjoflo - 6-7-2018 at 02:38 AM

admin - 6-7-2018 at 03:00 AM

Quote: Originally posted by emsjoflo

Have you tried .17 build? many bugs of .10 were fixed.

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admin - 15-7-2018 at 07:52 PM

Hi Boothy,
GSB next build will have stats to count systems in workers and managers. Unque systems and worker systems. - There are performance increases too in the database. I build 2000 systems with 4 workers, and lost 1 system (duplicate I think)
With 20 or so workers, I lost significantly higher amount of systems, which Im still looking into.
Hope to have a count that represents if connection to google, and connection to GSB server fails too.

boosted - 16-7-2018 at 08:37 AM

Quote: Originally posted by emsjoflo